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Old 09-29-2015, 05:10 AM
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Ideal diesel Mercedes

You still have not said how much for $4000 there is a 2005 E320 CDI with waterinjection and 235k miles (why it is so low priced) Cold A/C good heat heated seats great car except it uses oil every 400 miles. (which is why it is so low priced But it does not leak oil on the ground like an 85.

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/mercedes-cars-sale/372197-2005-e320-cdi-%244000-235k-miles.html#post3523781


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Old 10-01-2015, 07:10 AM
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I don't know that I would ever go back to daily driving a w123\first gen w126. I decided that I wanted something with airbags which means 2nd gen w126 or w124 or later. With the way that CDI prices are in the US (they are still waaaayyyyy more up here in Canada) I would seriously be looking at one of those. My next choice would probably be a 98 or 99 w210 followed by the w124 2.5turbo as it doesn't have any of teh head issues that the 3.0 had.

My 85 w123 300TDT has an airbag factory...

Both my 85 w123 and my 87 w124 are daily drivers. I like them both for different reasons. If I could only have one it would be the W123. The W124 is faster, gets better MPG, is more comfortable (mines face lifted to a 94 inside and out) Wife likes it better of the too. But there is something about the w123 that just makes me smile every-time I drive it. Also, I see a lot of the w124 out there, but I rairly see another w123 wagon... It also stands out in a parking lot... never loose your car! The w123 is also the car that if I had the fund, I would have fully restored.
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:06 PM
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My 85 w123 300TDT has an airbag factory...
That is extremely rare....
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Old 10-01-2015, 01:11 PM
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I look for cast iron block at least,and A inline engine.I think its stupid to turn a counter balance in V6 blocks.Wasted energy.
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Old 10-01-2015, 02:48 PM
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Lots of good information here. The 300D2.5 Turbo (W124, OM602) is certainly a good choice, given the OP's likes and dislikes. I've never owned one of those so I can't write from experience but they seem to have a good reputation on this forum.

One key item for those who don't want to do a lot of wrenching and are new to Mercedes is to shop for a car with good service records, because it shows a car that has been taken care of. Buying any used car entails some degree of risk; for a newbie with limited mechanical skills or desire, it's important to minimize those risks. It's also valuable to have someone who knows these cars to preview it; as a newbie you won't know what to look for.

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Old 10-01-2015, 05:25 PM
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I'm new and would like you all opinion on which to buy
2000 and above is way above my budget
I need ac. Heater not necessary
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Pretty easy. Shop for one that does fit your "budget." Whatever that happens to be?
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Since he wants something pre 2000, and without a 606 engine and with good aircon, his only option as far as I can tell is a w124.

I still think buying an old Mercedes without being a DIY person is daft..... Unless you have deep pockets... but since he's on a budget I'll rule that one out....
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Old 10-04-2015, 12:51 PM
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The 1986+ diesels perform better, but are more complex and expensive to fix. Indeed, most used high-end 1990's Euro-cars probably have negative value, due to parts costs, unless in pristine condition. A 240D is perfect for someone on a budget and if you don't fancy yourself a race driver. Insuring it might even be cheaper. Otherwise, a 1982-85 300D/SD/TD gives you a turbo, probably at the expense of some engine longevity. They are becoming very common in the junkyards here so many parts are now cheap. But you will still be far from the affordability of common daily-drivers like a 1990's Chevy, Toyota, or my Chrysler minivan, all of which can be bought in good condition for $500 w/ easily available and cheap parts.
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Old 10-04-2015, 12:56 PM
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The beauty of the '86+ diesels is that there were a ton of the same body cars (201, 124, 126) with gas engines which started heading to the boneyards long ago, and make everything other than engine parts for those cars plentiful and cheap used.
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Also the OP (who seems to have disappeared) said that he can't (won't) do valve adjustments, so to me that rules out all pre 1986 cars...
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Getting your valves adjusted on one of the old MB diesels would have to be pretty cheap and infrequent. Any good shade tree guy could grasp the how - to of the adjustments, IMO.
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Old 10-04-2015, 06:12 PM
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a few points touched on

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. if you have room... complete parts cars are really helpful on these old relics....
Agreed! this is so true

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.... If you are not a DIY kind of person, I would strongly caution you getting into older diesel Mercedes.
hahaha, Strongly Caution , good advice right there!

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Very well said. I have told people that if they didn't like to tinker with a car, old MB diesels would probably not be a good choice.
this cannot be over-emphasized enough (especially in this thread )

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But there is something about the w123 that just makes me smile every-time I drive it. Also, I see a lot of the w124 out there, but I rairly see another w123
I smile every time I drive my 123 too, LOL, they have a certain classy charm about them

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I still think buying an old Mercedes without being a DIY person is daft.....
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Old 10-04-2015, 08:33 PM
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Getting your valves adjusted on one of the old MB diesels would have to be pretty cheap and infrequent. Any good shade tree guy could grasp the how - to of the adjustments, IMO.
Simple? Yes, infrequent? no.. it should be done at least once a year, preferably before winter so you have your best compression for winter starting. But if his budget it limited this yearly cost\inconvenience may be an issue for him.
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Old 10-04-2015, 10:26 PM
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I'm new and would like you all opinion on which to buy
2000 and above is way above my budget
I need ac. Heater not necessary
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87 300D or a 86 or 87 300 SDL.
Both get good economy, and have enough pep to keep up with modern traffic.

If you can reach a bit further, a 2005 or 2006 CDI.

A third option if you are not in the rust belt, is a 210 chassis with a diesel.
I cannot recommend a 210 chassis for rust belt driving.
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Old 10-04-2015, 11:28 PM
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Simple? Yes, infrequent? no.. it should be done at least once a year, preferably before winter so you have your best compression for winter starting. But if his budget it limited this yearly cost\inconvenience may be an issue for him.
Totally unecessary to frequently adjust valves.
Learning how to adjust valves is almost a non-issue. Especially if money's an issue...... Virtually anyone can easily learn how to.....

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