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W124 rear shock mount rust
I'll probably start a thread for this whole car in the restoration section since this is what this is turning into, but wanted to fish for some opinions on this particular rust issue since I can't seem to a find a lot of similar examples.
My 87 300D has a nasty rust issue on the passenger side upper rear shock mount. The metal is thick so it isn't giving structurally, but it's bad and I need to fix it. Thought it would just be a POR job, but it is obviously not ... as usual when you dig past the surface. The area is put together with multiple pieces of sheet metal that seems tack welded together. It looks as if, assuming I can remove the tack welds, I could just tack weld new pieces in from inside the trunk, while doing a small weld patch on the wheel well bit it mounts to. I can't find these pieces of sheet metal in the EPC or any of the mishmash of onlines parts sites I can find. Does anyone know where I can find it? I could probably cut this out of a non-rusty car, but I'm not sure I can breakup the spot welds without really boogering it up. (Or can I?) I will post more pictures tomorrow of this area inside and out so my question makes more sense.
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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Is that picture upside own?
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Not as it's showing in my browser ... may be a sort of an MC Escher-type illusion since it's not a very good picture. This is a view inside the wheel well. The rusted area is above where the shock goes in. I will add more pictures tomorrow that offer context ... apologies for not being clear at the moment.
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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If the rest of the steel is good, clean it up and weld in a patch.
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OK, more photos. The pictures from inside show what I'm talking about with different layers of metal being tack welded on. The shock bolts through two layers of sheet metal ... the one that forms the wheel well which is normal thin sheet metal, and then the smaller piece seen on top inside the trunk, which is super thick. That piece is solid, but does have surface rust on it. I can cut off all the thin sheet metal outside of it and weld in new, but I don't want to weld over any rust, so the thick piece should probably go too. My point in all this is it would be difficult to recreate in patches, especially considering I am a beginner welder with no metal-shaping ability or tools. Guess I will just cut out all the rust and see what I'm left with. Hopefully I can get the thick piece from a parts car and the rest can just use patches.
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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1980 240d , chain elongation, cam marks reference: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html evap fin cleaning: http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator A/C thread http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html |
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I know of a certain parts car sitting in Middletown that I also need to cut some metal out of that should have those same bits you need.
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If possible weld from inside the car. Welding up side down is a new experience you probably don't want to practice on your car!
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Or get someone else to fix it!
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Already on it. I'll let you know when I'm headed to start cutting ... I might be able to get your floors too if I definitely know how much you need me to cut.
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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1987 300D, arctic white/palomino--314,000 miles 1978 240D 4-speed, Euro Delivery, light ivory/bamboo--370,000 miles 2005 Jeep Liberty CRD Limited, light khaki/slate--140,000 miles 2018 Chevy Cruze diesel, 6-speed manual, satin steel metallic/kalahari--19,000 miles 1982 Peugeot 505 diesel, 4-speed manual, blue/blue, 130,000 miles 1995 S320, black/parchment--34,000 miles (Dad's car) |
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Its going to be a lot. I think I need to see the floor on his car before I start cutting since I haven't dissembled anything on mine yet.
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