People can die when this happens yet some wish (for an unknown reason) to think it's the drivers/owner's fault.

Please quote posts where anyone in this thread ( or PP site ) suggested that a sudden red is the drivers fault.

I still think it would be prudent to replace the SBC as soon as you buy a car with one in it... If you chalk it up to maintenance costs over the course of ownership its not really that much, especially for the piece of mind...

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Will someone with a BW account please have the sudden red / shutoff guy post the actual trouble code that triggered red / shutoff. Also, have them post the number of actuations and the i_vzz and i_vzzMax info outlined on page 6 of the BW link. Partial quote below:

out of touch driver?
blind and deaf driver/owner?
owner intentionally ignoring ?

Plenty of driver/owner blaming here. Bosch and MB spend nearly a billion on the SBC and then shortly into it they stopped using it. Why? It can fail without warning and cause a catastrophe.

You don't comprehend the question I posed, read it again slowly. " Please quote posts where anyone in this thread ( or PP site ) suggested that a sudden red is the drivers fault.

Sudden red as in: Everything was fine , no white messages, primary brake system shut down and the dash went red.


The driver / owner is being blamed if they _CONTINUE_ to drive the car long after white warnings were issued or the system has gone red. Same goes for driving on a punctured tire / steering linkage worn out / . .. . .

When a regular brake system suddenly malfunctions due to a failed master cylinder , rusted steel line, brake pad becoming unbonded from the backing, rubber hose rupturing, are there any warning lights that turn on before there is a failure?

Apply data and logic not blind emotion.

Don't autoscan all systems on your Cdi while driving. I was surprised the Maxidas scanner I have would do this on my car. I was pulling out of my driveway when the Sbc scan came up. My brakes totally went out , dash turned red and I couldn't stop for a second. I was just moving the car to a different spot and was ready for this to happen. I was shocked it would perform a scan that would take out the brakes while driving. Bad software programming there. It should say -- put car in park ... Turn off engine -- something. I warned you. And really never scan your car while driving unless the manual says too.

Maybe not, what does the scanner manual say about running a SBC scan and driving the car?