It is very apparent that you are an evil Republican that owns factories whose sole product is toxic waste that you rain down on school children via chem trails. . . .

Just as a "Type R' sticker makes a Honda go faster, a "I'm green" sticker on a car gives is zero emissions.

There is a guy down the street whom touts hydrogen as free energy from water. Yes, he did briefly get a small engine to run on what he produced. When asked where he got the energy to make hydrogen from water, he states that " it was from rechargeable car batteries, they are free." . He is totally ignoring the cost of grid electricity to recharge them.

I'm OK with the electric / hybrid car thing as long as there is a realistic assessment of costs / energy / hardware usage to prove an overall saving.

I thought I posted this but I don't see it. I.m just storing the solar panel in a safe place on the back window of the merc. and maybe it will charge the battery a bit, it has a controller box so it won't over charge etc. I little trickle solar panel won't hurt that expensive battery will it? Mk

What voltage is the control box set at? A lead acid battery needs about 13.5 V input to maintain a charge.

As for storing the panel in a "safe place", is the solar panel firmly bolted to the rear shelf? If not, in a crash it will decapitate your rear seat passengers and maybe make it's way to the front seat area.

It is doubtful the solar panel will harm the battery, it is a certainty that your deep discharge mode of operation will.

In Ontario where we live, Fields and fields on solar panels are being installed. The government pays solar companies a premium price for the power produced. Presumably in part because the reduce CO2 emissions from fossil powered generation plants.

Many of the fields where panels are located, used to be used for farming or for grazing. But even if it was just grassland, that grassland would have absorbed a good amount of CO2 and now is covered by panels.

Anyone seen any numbers that compare CO2 saved vs CO2 lost by solar farms?

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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha...

Great point!

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My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
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No way would I just let it rain down on them. I spray it on them directly so no chance of some of them using an umbrella to protect them from it.

I wish they would install solar panels here, in Arizona, there is no fields to destroy, forest to cut down....just scrub that barely gets 3 feet tall....

Issues are that it would cause the giant polluting coal burning power plants to be shut down...Wouldn't be a bad thing for the environment....but for the Navajo Nation....it would cause great poverty and that cannot happen....As they are the only ones allowed to work at the plants....Coal would stop coming in and all kinds of crap...

This is really a huge messed up part of america that no one seems to know anything about....Navajo's came up from Mexico over a century ago, kicked the Hopi off their land....The US was helping the Hopi rid their land of these "squatters" and then because of a new president, the role was reversed and the Hopi were forced off their land and the land was given to the Navajo.....All because the Hopi refused to sell the government mineral rights....and the Navajo were more then happy to sign over the destruction of the land for cold hard cash...

You wouldn't believe the money they rake in from the government, the free cars, free housing, free cash......And mean while the veterans and other native Indians....get squat....all for mineral rights...

So don't threat that you guys are just losing farm land to solar panels....We continue to destroy our land with huge coal burning monsters.....That are also contaminating our drinking water with heavy metal and destroying our economy to pay for the mineral rights....

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Solar power has come a long way from Jimmy Carter's days, but still needs a lot of area to work. Eastern California has much of that and it looks like an arid wasteland to the untrained eye, but environmentalists have opposed solar in the Mojave Desert. One complaint is that the shade will affect the desert tortoise. I would think for the better since they normally stay in burrows during the day to avoid the evil sun. Another is that power lines over the mountains to SoCal would be unsightly, cause damaging EM radiation (?), or some other "we'll think of it later" complaint. Most fussers don't live in the Mojave. Perhaps they should try it (like I did). It is pretty much a wasteland.

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California is just an odd place, when it comes down to "environmentalists"...I lived there up to a couple years ago and I lived in the part of the bay area with a ton of marsh land. They wouldn't allow any progress because some "odd" mouse. But get this....They were set on the "wetland restoration", this meant flooding areas that haven't seen water for well over a century, blowing levees and building hills....I was like, wait....aren't they destroying the environment be "restoring" it You would go by these places years later after the "restoration" and see no signs of life or vegetation. I use to tell everyone, you know all the natural inhabitants of those lands have well adapted to what it is to day, as in terms of a rodent...they've went threw well over a hundred generations....Now will just "restore" it...

In this part of the world, they say the Colorado river doesn't even reach the ocean anymore...and I can tell why...but we don't have any "environmentalists" screaming "BLOW the Dam!" because then it would ruin the "resort" town...

Like "god" I've given up on humanity a long time ago

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Private citizens have tons of solar panels and solar water heaters here in Tucson.

Solar needs more refining until it is acceptable for use as main infrastructure. The panels are too large, too inefficient, and too expensive as of now. Nuclear power is much more sustainable right now. Our nuclear plant inPalo Verde AZ is a 3 gigawatt triple reactor plant and serves several cities. No coal, just fissile material. With fuel rod recycling, it's incredibly efficient. Solar is preferred here (300 something days of sunshine) but until then, nuke is it. If solar panels come down to $5,000 for a full household energy load people will flock to buy them.

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Finally, someone who knows the mind of god - to set us right.

No it won't hurt at all because: a.) that solar panel does not put out enough power to boil your battery electrolyte; b.) you are running it through a charge controller. What you are doing is great!

By monitoring the system voltage & switching the alternator in/out, it seems you already have a fall-back plan for when the battery voltage drops too low during use, which is all you need really...

But... since you are willing to tolerate a lower discharge termination voltage due the fact that your car will trickle charge every time it is parked, why not design an arduino based alternator controller to automate this function? That way you can allow deeper discharges, and periodic top-offs that can be tweaked to your driving style.

Remember safety when connecting and servicing solar panels. These are active devices so they are live in sunlight they should be covered prior to terminating to eliminate any potential of shock or sparking. I realize this panel is smal but just get into safe practices early who knows you maybe working with larger solar panels someday.

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I think a proper diode ( one way gate ) must be Somewhere in the system.... as without it... the electricity , at night, flows the other direction and heats the solar cell....

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chain elongation, cam marks reference:
http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/10414-help-i-need-check-stretch.html

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/305365-9-degrees-chain-stretch.html

evap fin cleaning:

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/156207-photo-step-step-post-showing-w123-evaporator-removal-1983-240d-1982-300td.html?highlight=evaporator

A/C thread

http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/297462-c-recommendations-mb-vehicles.html

That's built into the charger.

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