Anybody try Fluid Film? - Page 2 - PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum

Mxfrank · #16 02-27-2016, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by leathermang

As far as I know Fluid Film is just Lanolin.....
No petroleum products to out gas...
no toxic gases in a fire....
and no problem if you get it on your skin...

Really? Because according to the MSDS this is what's in it:

Refined petroleum oil, hydrotreated heavy paraffinic 64742-54-7 50-90%
Calcium petroleum sulfonate 61789-86-4 1-10%

Neither of which sound like lanolin. Actually, it sounds more like used motor oil, with perfume.

leathermang · #17 02-27-2016, 10:41 PM

What ? if that is true I have been misled...
I wonder if they have run out of sheep they can wring oil out of ?

I was going by this type of description....

http://www.fluid-film.com/
http://www.fluid-film.com/applications/automotive/
http://www.kellsportproducts.com/

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Kellsport Products is the leading distribution warehouse for Eureka Fluid Film aerosol and Fluid Film pails and drums. We ship to Fluid Film Dealers and auto parts stores all over the country. Ask your local dealer if they carry Eureka Fluid Film.

There are several different Fluid Film formula's. Fluid Film "NAS" is the most popular formula. "NAS" is used for auto undercoating, general lubrication, and rust preventing applications. When Fluid Film "NAS" is packaged in aerosol cans, it becomes Fluid Film

Q. What makes Fluid Film different from its competitors?
A. Where most products contain between seventy and ninety percent solvent, Fluid Film contains none except for its propellant, meaning long lasting lubrication and protection. With no solvent, Fluid Film won't evaporate or become sticky or gummy, allowing it to migrate to other areas for lubrication or protection. With its unique lanolin base, Fluid Film will actually embed itself in the pores of metal, resisting wash off and keeping moisture and oxygen from getting to the base metal. Containing no solvent content, Fluid Film lends itself to numerous applications where the comparative solvent-based products would not even be considered

Q. What effect does Fluid Film have on the environment?
A. Fluid Film is classified as a non-toxic and non-hazardous liquid and contains less than one percent VOC content. Lower VOC content helps eliminate the use of ozone-depleting chemicals in the atmosphere. Fluid Film contains no solvents, phenols, heavy metals, arsenic, pcb's, pc's, or other dioxin related substances. It is manufactured using an all natural lanolin base.

Q. Will Fluid Film harm paint?
A. Not at all. Fluid Film can be applied directly to paint without harming it.

Q. Will Fluid Film harm rubber or plastic?
A. It has no adverse effect on plastic or synthetic rubber, but it may cause some swelling on natural rubber.

Q. Can I paint over Fluid Film?
A. Because Fluid Film leaves a wet, non-drying film and embeds itself in the pores of the metal, any surface treated with Fluid Film should be wiped down with a good biodegradable cleaner before painting.

Q. Is Fluid Film an effective rust remover?
A. No, Fluid Film is not formulated to remove rust. However, if applied over existing rust, it will stop it immediately from spreading further. Fluid Film will penetrate rust and rust scale to the base metal, loosening and easing in the removal process

Q. Will Fluid Film prevent existing rust from spreading?
A. Yes, Fluid Film will stop it immediately from spreading further.

Q. Can I apply Fluid Film on my battery terminals to prevent corrosion?
A. Yes, it's an excellent way to prevent corrosion on battery terminals. Fluid Film is non-conductive, so you'll need to make your battery connections PRIOR to applying. The non-drying nature will provide long term protection.

Q. Will dirt build up on the surface after applying Fluid Film?
A. Because it remains wet, you'll see an initial light dusting, but because it doesn't have any solvents it won't become sticky and gum up or create a build-up of dirt.

Q. Will Fluid Film harm electrical connections?
A. No. It is non-conductive, so be sure to establish all connections prior to application.

Q. Will it keep locks from freezing during the winter?
A. Yes, a light application is all that's needed to provide long term lubrication for lock assemblies, even in freezing temperatures.

Q. Can I use Fluid Film to condition my leather work boots?
A. Fluid Film is an excellent conditioner for leather products and will not only soften but also weather proof your leather work boots.

Q. Does Fluid Film work on snow blowers, snowmobiles, shovels and other snow removal equipment?
A. Yes, it will prevent snow from sticking to the surface.

Q. Will it work on motorcycle chains?
A. Fluid Film is an all purpose chain lube due to its non-solvent application. Spray Fluid Film directly on the chain, wiping off excess with a clean rag. Fluid Film will migrate into all areas, providing long-lasting lubrication and protection from rust. Great on bicycle chains as well.

Q. Can I use Fluid Film on guns and other firearms?
A. Yes. Apply Fluid Film to a clean dry rag, rubbing into metal surface as would be done with a polish or a wax. It will not leave fingerprints or negatively affect bluing. The lanolin base of Fluid Film will also act as a conditioner on the wood stock. Fluid Film will hold up in extreme conditions.

Q. Will Fluid Film dry out over time?
A. Not it will not dry out. Fluid Film is a lanolin based product containing no solvents. It will not evaporate or dry out. It will leave a wet, non-drying film, that will provide long term corrosion protection on all metals and superior lubrication for all moving parts

Q. Can Fluid Film prevent grass from sticking to my lawn mower?
A. We grass will stick to almost every surface. By applying Fluid Film to your mower it will protect against corrosion and although it won't prevent grass build up, it will make it easier to it.

Q. Does Fluid Film work on all types of metals?
A. Fluid Film will protect all metals from oxidation and atmospheric corrosion, including steel, stainless steel, copper, lead, tin and zinc. It will stop chrome and brass from pitting and aluminum and magnesium from oxidizing.

Q. My stainless steel has pitted areas that are corroding. Will Fluid Film help prevent additional corrosion?
A. Yes, it will protect those pitted areas that from corroding.

Q. If applied to trimming or cutting lawn devices, will it burn greenery?
A. No, it will not. It is safe to use in this application.

Q. Can I thin down Fluid Film and use it in a pump spray?
A. The first recommendation is to thoroughly mix the product. Fluid Film is thixotropic, and will get heavier upon sitting. Achieving room temperature with the product will help as well. If a thinner version is wanted, start by mixing a small amount of vegetable oil to the product until the desired consistency is reached. It is not recommended that Fluid Film be used in a pump type sprayer even after thinning. A paint sprayer is what is recommended for proper application.

Q. Can I use a pump type sprayer for applying Fluid Film from the 5 gallon container?
A. No. Fluid Film needs to be sprayed at 60-90 psi. We recommend the Fluid Film spray applicator guns that we have developed exclusively for Fluid Film NAS formula. Fluid Film spray guns.

Q. What's the shelf life of Fluid Film?
A. The shelf life of Fluid Film bulk packaging (gallons, pails,) is indefinite. Fluid Film aerosol spray cans are guaranteed for 12 months.

FE240D · #18 02-27-2016, 10:55 PM

Boiled linseed oil, a rapeseed oil with driers added, also works great as a rust preventer. My rig is rust free but have used it on large antique cast iron planters that remain outside with great results. It is very fluid, not expensive and works great. Here in Iowa, farmers use it liberally to prevent rust.

HarvAMG · #19 02-27-2016, 11:24 PM

Remember, Fluid Film is to prevent rust. Spraying this over a bunch of rust isn't going to work miracles.

Mxfrank · #20 02-28-2016, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leathermang

What ? if that is true I have been misled...
I wonder if they have run out of sheep they can wring oil out of ?

I was going by this type of description....

Fluid Film® | Corrosion Preventative, Lubricant and Rust Inhibitor
Fluid Film® | Corrosion Preventative, Lubricant and Rust Inhibitor
Fluid Film Rust Protection

I get what you're saying, but look at the MSDS:

http://www.fluid-film.com/downloads/SDS_NAS.pdf

Something doesn't add up...

chrisgt · #21 02-28-2016, 09:40 AM

Huh.... weird. The stuff sure SMELLS like sheep. The MSDS seems lacking, I've read a lot of MSDSs and that one seems sparse on data. Now I'm interesting on what's going on here.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mxfrank

I get what you're saying, but look at the MSDS:

http://www.fluid-film.com/downloads/SDS_NAS.pdf

Something doesn't add up...

97 SL320 · #22 02-28-2016, 11:05 AM

The MSDS ( Material Safety Data Sheet now called SDS Safety Data Sheet and now follows a standard format. ) is only required to list hazardous materials. Any non hazardous material isn't required to be listed though sometimes it would show up on the old style sheets.

The wide % range is to protect trade secrets and , for any chemical that is considered a trade secret, the hazard is listed but not the exact chemical.

No way to tell if the base stock is used motor oil, if it was, that would be a perfectly acceptable base stock.

leathermang · #23 02-28-2016, 11:24 AM

They offer several different products...
I wonder if the msds is testing one of those which does not conform to the advertising of the basic form ?
ALL I know is that when I use it I have a pack of Border Collies following me everywhere I go...
just kidding...but it is a funny visual ....

JHZR2 · #24 02-28-2016, 09:21 PM

Ive used a variety of products. My preferred approach is using a creeping oil like Krown Rust Control (Canada) and Carwell (USA).

FF is quite good in some applications, but can wash off easily, and is a bit more difficult to get everywhere you want. It is preferable to spray waxes which can allow water underneath, similar to spraying undercoating.

Id rather use oil which is easier to vaporize in a great mist in confined spaces, but FF can be had by the gallon at any NAPA...