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How many 87 300D's left?
Anyway to find the number of remaining 87 300D's? Just did a tristate search on CL and for the first time ever there are none listed for sale! Only one on Ebay for North America...
There was what, like 2500 units in 87 imported to the US. (mines actually an 86 on the build card) Just curious. Maybe I should get my frame fixed lol. |
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I've got a mint example with 152k on it.
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That one's a treat, should have put his money in the engine and sunroof instead of wheels and paint. "needs air filter and valve adjust so it runs rough"? I'd bet even money on a bad head rather than adjustment of a hydraulic lifter. Is this like the "A/C works great, just needs a charge" claim?
I see them on craigslist and ebay frequently, although they aren't usually in very good condition and don't seem to bring much money (some of them really rough). At this point unless they're really well cared for they're either rusty and beat up (rust belt), or the interior and paint are roasted (south), ... and in both cases need lots of suspension and deferred maintenance work, if they have a minor fender-bender or don't start they are usually hauled to the boneyard. No idea on numbers remaining, although I have seen a few in the local junkyards over the past several years.
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2500 300D's only? Gosh, how many TD's were there then? Makes me wanna treasure mine a little more.
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I think he's talking about the '87 300D sedan only, total run of 124 diesels is significantly higher (although arguably the '90-up is a 250D and then an E300D).
The numbers on the '87 300TD are much lower, the most commonly cited number is around 1,450, not built for Europe in a 3L turbo, so that's total, and we know that there were around 330 dealers in the US alone in 1987 (probably about 20% in CA), which means around 300 of them started life as a white wagon (usually with blue MB-tex) with blue SERVICE stripes, white was also somewhat popular in the sun-belt. Remove those that had accidents or went into disrepair and were scrapped, or just nasty rust-belt cars and you have a pretty low number of non-white '87 300TDs worldwide. Now narrow that to the small percentage that were high-spec, leather, heated seats, both fairly uncommon, 3rd-seat and cargo-cover/pet-net, orthopedic seats, ... I'd say that if you have a black, red, blue car with heated-orthopedic-leather seats, 3rd-seat and cargo-cover/pet-net, you're the only one. Black seems to be the least common interior, red or cream-beige second, palomino 'tex is by far the most common '87 300D/300TD interior second would be blue (in white wagon, a few white wagons had gray).
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I can't remember the exact number of 87 190D turbo's, however I want to say it is fewer than the 124's of that year. I am here in Lisbon, Portugal on holiday and have seen two 2.5 turbo 190D's. They were privately owned. There are a remarkable amount of diesel Mercedes here and I haven't seen an automatic yet. Heaps of w201 taxis, four and five cylinder, and far more w202 sedan and wagon taxis with four cylinder om604(I think is the engine code). All stick shifts, it is funny to hear the dual mass flywheels coming apart but the drivers just keep on rocking them out. A few w124(and w210h taxis still in service here but I see far more of the newer than w202 c-classes as taxis than anything else(as many of the others combined(Peugeot, Citroen etc) as the amount of benzes.
Insane how many of them there are driving around still here, privately owned models of w201 and w124 diesels are quite numerous as well, even saw a 280td w123 yesterday, the only gasser I've seen yet. Anyways, a little off topic but remarkable as I've only seen US optioned Mercedes
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Can you take pictures and post them here I would love to see them
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I picked up two '87 300d's in January 2016 from a little old lady in Indianapolis for $750 (C-list). A driver in gray and its parts car in light blue.
The driver would qualify under babymogs description of somewhat rusty, deferred maintenance, etc, but surprisingly the engine was pretty well taken care of and runs very solid. I'm looking forward to making it a daily. G. D. surprising how fast these cars are. I also have a '92 300d and think it will be interesting to get them out on a nice backroad someday for bragging rights.
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RenaissanceMan Labs: where the future is being made today. Garage: 2017 Chevy Colorado Diesel (nanny state emissions) 2005 Volvo S40 T5 AWD, 77k 1987 Mercedes-Benz 300D turbodiesel, 4 sp auto, 156k - 28.7 mpg 1996 Tracker 4x4, 2 door, 16v, 3 sp auto. 113k - 28.6 mpg WARNING: this post may contain dangerous free thinking. |
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I will start a new thread with pics of all these euro diesel Benz.
On a more related note, a guy who works in the same facility in SW Atlanta drove an 87 300d legendary om603a. He always got the nod/wave from me in my turbo 190D. Anyhow, last week he approached me and told me the car was for sale, $1500(but he was flexible) as the car had slipped out of park and backed itself down a hill into something that crunched it up a bit. It does seem a bit steep and I would be interested myself but I have no money currently, plus I know where an om602a is for only $350 right now that I'd rather have... If anyone is interested in the area I could put you in touch with the guy
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Performance specs (from brochure) for 1987:
190D 2.5turbo - 32mpg Hwy - 0-55mph: 9.5sec - curb weight: 3010lb 300D turbo - 30mpg Hwy - 0-55mph: 8.7sec - curb weight: 3375lb - top speed: 128mph 300TD turbo - 27mpg Hwy - 0-55mph: 9.8sec - curb weight: 3670lb 300SDL turbo - 23mpg Hwy - 0-55mph: 10.4sec - curb weight: 3835lb I've had 2 '87 300D sedans, one was a diamond blue over blue leather, very nice driver, the other gold over palomino 'tex, t-boned organ donor. One '87 300TD, current One '87 190D 2.5 turbo, light ivory over palomino tex, very clean / nice driver Out of the 3, I like the TD best, it is so practical and unique. The 190Dt was more fun to drive, the 300D better for taking couples to dinner and commuting.
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How many 87 300D's left?
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Wow! I knew I had a keeper when I found my baby, but I had no idea they were this rare! Here's a beauty shot. Red interior, 3rd row seats. Almost zero rust. It got rear ended recently but is almost all fixed up now with a used bumper, new exhaust and flex pipe. The only thing it's waiting for us the rear hatch trim, which had to come from Germany. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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I currently have... 3 1987 300TD's one beige/palomino tex, one Silver Maroon tex, one wrecked brown with palomino leather... 1 1987 300D turbo White with palomino interior 2 1987 190D 2.5 turbo's... both gold with beige tex interior... 1 1987 190D 2.5 N/A 5 speed...
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John HAUL AWAY, OR CRUSHED CARS!!! HELP ME keep the cars out of the crusher! A/C Thread "as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do! My drivers: 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5Turbo 1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!! 1987 300TD 1987 300TD 1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere! |
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Vstech, your cup runneth over!
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