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Old 08-04-2016, 04:02 PM
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Transmission shifts into gear hard

I was having trouble with my 82 240d not shifting correctly so I replaced most every rubber vacuum line on the car. Now it shifts at what I believe is at the right time. How ever when giving it about 1/2 pedal or more it makes neck snapping shifts. If conditions are right it will give me a 2nd gear scratch and in the rain it will fish tail when it shifts. I have not tried changing the filter and fluid yet, could that be the cause? I'm trying to get this car straitened out for my 17 year old new driver. Also the vcv actuator rod is supposed to have a plastic clip that connects it to another rod, mine broke and I'm using ziptyes to hold them together. Any idea of a better way to hold them or where to get the clip?

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Old 08-04-2016, 07:58 PM
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Shift firmness is a function of vacuum. Less vacuum = firmer shifts. You may have a bad VCV (Vacuum Control Valve).
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Old 08-04-2016, 08:40 PM
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So can I check the vacuum going to the transmission at idle and higher revs and see what I've got. If yes does this need to be done with car in gear and moving or can I do it in the drive in neutral?
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Old 08-04-2016, 09:44 PM
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Do those have an adjustable modulator like the later cars? If so, it's an easy adjustment. I ran into the same thing when I put all new vacuum lines in. Apparently it had been adjusted to compensate for leaky hoses at some point and got pretty soft when there were no more leaks. Firm is definitely better than soft, though yours for sure sounds like too much.

The other thing is what size restrictor(s) are in the lines. If you don't have an adjustment on the transmission end of the line then that's what you'll use to set it.

The only weird thing is that if there were leaks and now there are none, I would expect it to get softer.

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Old 08-04-2016, 10:22 PM
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Here's a link from this site. There are others. It will take a while to get an understanding. Look through the manuals I sent you. They are for newer transmissions but look at the color of your modulator then look up the pressure specs. Specs are similar for a given modulator for most of the transmissions listed.

http://www.peachparts.com/Wikka/TransVacTune Ask Duck Duck Go for "mercedes 722 transmission adjust".

Don't mess with the modulator until vacuum leaks are taken care of even if you have to plug some vacuum lines temporarily to stop the leaks. You don't want to adjust the trans to leaking lines and then have to go back and readjust later after fixing the leaks.

I've read conflicting thoughts regarding adjustments to the modulator without using a gauge. My conclusion is that a newby trans adjuster (ie me) i more likely to screw it up than get lucky and get it right. Just buy a cheap gauge if you don't have one.
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Old 08-05-2016, 12:43 AM
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When you say gauge you mean vacuum gauge, right?
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Old 08-05-2016, 01:08 AM
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I agree with Rogviler and think there is a good probability that someone made an adjustment to the vacuum modulator trying to compensate (trying to correct shift harshness) for vacuum leaks. Now that all vacuum leaks have been fixed would be a good time to adjust the modulator.
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Old 08-05-2016, 11:12 AM
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Vacuum gauge to monitor transmission line

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So can I check the vacuum going to the transmission at idle and higher revs and see what I've got. If yes does this need to be done with car in gear and moving or can I do it in the drive in neutral?
You can do it in neutral. The vacuum should be highest at idle and drop as you press the foot feed. This emulates gas engine manifold vacuum, or it's supposed to. Mercedes thus was able to make the same (or very similar) transmissions for both gas and diesel cars.

I 'borrowed' the 4-gauge cluster from a gas car for my diesel and connected the "economy" gauge to the transmission vacuum line. With the gauge I can monitor the vacuum at all times. [The picture was originally intended to show my CRUISE CONTROL indicator but you can also see the "economy" gauge in the left side of the cluster.]

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Old 08-05-2016, 11:27 AM
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You should have 15-22" of vacuum at idle measured at the main vacuum tube going from the vacuum pump to the brake booster. To get an accurate measurement of vacuum from the vac pump cap off the other lines coming from the main vacuum tube while doing the test. This will eliminate any possible vacuum leaks you have elsewhere in the car giving you a true measure of what your vac pump is actually producing.
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Old 08-07-2016, 08:55 AM
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The missing clip can be the problem your having .
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Old 08-17-2016, 11:10 PM
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kick down at pedal ok?these wear out easily what about kick down solenoid attached at the transmission do you have a reading at the pedal kick down switch?

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