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Old 10-06-2016, 03:57 PM
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For reasonably priced floor jacks, if weight isn't a big issue, I use a 3-ton Sears Craftsman floor jack that my daughter bought for my birthday about 6years ago. It easily lifts either end of any car/SUV/Van I have around including the entire front of my W140 diesel (many times), lifts the counterweight & engine end of my compact loader (total weight 7,600#, most of that in the counterweight end), is fairly low-profile for a 3-ton, and seems well built. It is around (guessing here) 35-40# however, not something I lift in/out of a car often.

I was at a neighborhood garage sale last year and saw a "jack" I haven't seen in years, used to be advertised in Popular Mechanics etc. It was an airbag, that you hook to your car exhaust, and it lifts the car. Pretty cool, I should have bought it just for nostalgia (it was NIB).

The 3 ton jacks sold by northern tool or similar places weigh close to 80 lbs.

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Old 10-06-2016, 04:50 PM
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Unless your exact lift is certified by ALI or ETL , it could be more dangerous than a set of ramps. And that would be an actual certification applied by these testing organizations not a manufacturer saying " Tested to ALI ETL standards "

http://www.autolift.org/ali-directory-of-certified-lifts/certified-lift-search/

See my posts 6 and 7 here 2 post lift info

The OPs plastic ramps are only 6" high and have a wide base I don't see that a tipping hazard. A set of standard jack stands would be more "tippy" is one tried to put too much lateral load on the car. This isn't a failing of the stands, it is a failing of the person working on the car.

And ramps / stands don't work well on an uneven surface / gravel / on a hill.
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Has anyone here ever used steel rims as cribs?
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A 10' ceiling can work with a hoist though it's a bit minimal. I had 10' at my old shop in Ann Arbor with scissor trusses over the hoist bay - worked OK though you did need to use some caution and a pick-up could only go up just SO high. So this is my second shop with a hoist (so I've had one for about 20 years or so) and at my age I simply couldn't (and wouldn't) do what I do without it. I encourage you to look into it. Best thing since sliced bread.

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Old 10-06-2016, 07:54 PM
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Has anyone here ever used steel rims as cribs?

At the salvage yard stacked flat, but they work better with inflated tires as the edges tend to sink in to the ground. Some places will weld 2 or 3 in a stack.

I've used wheels to lower truck bodies / 52 ft semi trailers with an old crank up "rail road" jack that has limited range. The trick is to start with a 15 " then nest a 14" then back to 15" Or use alternating 14 and 13.

Using all the same diameter requires welding them together.
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Old 10-06-2016, 09:43 PM
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Love to, would make wrenching so much better under the car, but I'm 6' and unless it's a Lotus Europa, ... I'd like to be able to put my daily on it also, which leaves me with only 4' under the car.

What I need is a toy barn (don't we all?).



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Old 10-07-2016, 01:29 PM
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The 3 ton jacks sold by northern tool or similar places weigh close to 80 lbs.
Hmm....the one I bought was more like 50 lbs. Arcan Professional-Quality Aluminum Quick Rise Low-Profile Service Jack — 3-Ton Lift Capacity, 3 3/4in.–18 1/8in. Lift Range, Model# ALJ3T | Floor Jacks| Northern Tool + Equipment
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is a 2 ton jack adequate for a 300d?
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If the heavy end isn't over 4,000lbs and it's a reputable brand (properly tested and rated), yes. IIRC the 300D is under 4,000lbs total, you could use a lighter-duty jack.
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Curb weight for a W123 300D is 3600LBS.

A two ton jack (4000lbs) should be fine. You're not raising the whole car with it so your jack is not lifting the whole weight anyway
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Right. I recall one poster in the thread saying they liked a jack rated twice the weight of car. For my light use, i think a 2 ton jack should do it.

my HF aluminum jack that is twisting is only 1.5 ton. Should be able to lift the front though without failing.

I'm now afraid of aluminum, but i'm also in love with the weight saving. an Arcan 2-ton aluminum one from northern tool seems like a good buy though.
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I've seen that pic somewhere before.

The height is probably as high as I would go for the runway width.

The higher weight applied to the runway, the more lateral force needed to topple it over. ( when applying lateral force, one must overcome vertical load to roll a cube )

The OSB skin adds strength ( like a unit body car or steel building )

There has to be some internal vertical support for this to work well. ( every 16" would be great )

I'm not liking the support on the wood loading ramps and am hoping they are firmly attached to the runway. Loose ramps will come off and dump the car while loading.

And , it's only a Corvette + driver. . . .
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Old 10-09-2016, 06:36 AM
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I have used my Rhino ramps a lot since I bought them three years ago. Betsie has been on them multiple times, I had a buddy use it for his Dodge Ram, and I have never had a single problem.
I honestly don't see how you could topple those Rhino ramps. Narrow, higher ramps maybe, but the Rhino's are plenty wide and actually not all that high. They are very, very stable. I have the 12.000 lbs rated ones.

I love mine, and have no issues whatsoever using them. I do have a second (and usually) third fail safe in place (jack stands + rims etc underneath car) just in case.

When I saw my buddy's Dodge RAM with a heavy 5.7 liter v8 Hemi drive up on them, and the ramps did not deform at all, I realized these plastic ramps are incredibly strong.

I have two sets of these. I'm very pleased with them and I use them all the time when I'm working on my cars.
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I'm not liking the support on the wood loading ramps and am hoping they are firmly attached to the runway. Loose ramps will come off and dump the car while loading.
Those ramps are definitely sketchy....makes me wonder what's inside the rest of the structure.

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