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Old 03-06-2017, 07:12 PM
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I'm about to pull the old motor finally, any suggestions on bolts to mount the engine to a stand.

I usually get the proper fitting bolts from the hardware store. The last block I mounted was a Cummins 6bt so don't have the proper sized I'd need for this om606.

Any guidance is greatly appreciated 🙏

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Old 03-06-2017, 11:24 PM
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Ahh speaking of which I was thinking of upgrading the sway bar to maybe out of a 400e?... Nice swap too!

To clear the sump I will swap the 95 w124 sump onto the om606.962. Hopefully it precludes me from dropping down the chassis point of contact for the sway bar brackets. Thank you for suggesting that option.
gsxr has a list of sway bars, the fattest is a rare one off a 124 Limo.
one conversion used a CDI oil pan to overcome fit problem in a Land Rover:
"3.2 CDI engine has a rear bowl sump and is compatible with the OM606 engine"
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:54 PM
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So all in all I'd like to keep the driveline Mercedes. I've got a line on a 2004 W203 C230 6 speed that went behind the m111 Compressor. I'm not certain if it will still bolt up. Just may require modifying shifter length.

I've commonly seen the w203 boxes will fit up to 2003 model year. The '04 kompressor motor is the M271 code. Looking at Mercedes logic of manufacturing I'd suspect it used the same patter - but I don't know. Any help is appreciated.
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Old 04-25-2017, 12:58 PM
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This seems like w126 chassis - from a German police vehicle. Totally unrelated but couldnt pass it up
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Old 04-28-2017, 11:38 PM
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Just got the trans from a w203, its from an M271 but bolts up fine. It came with a dual mass flywheel and the clutch - I plan to ditch it for a single mass flywheel.

Doing more research on trans options I came across a claim of someone running around 500 horse and lb-ft through a 716.xxx Either way I'm willing to test it, plus I'm glad it's all a MB drivetrain.

Does anyone know if the clutch brake pedal assembly from a W123 will bolt on? I'm also looking at a hand lever parking break - the hydraulic setups wouldn't be ideal for a parking break, but there are still plenty of options.
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Old 04-29-2017, 12:31 AM
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Does anyone know if the clutch brake pedal assembly from a W123 will bolt on?
They're not too common, but manual trans w124's were brought into the U.S. That would make your life easier.
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Thanks for all the help and responses!

Anyone know if the trans cross member from the 400/500/r129 will bolt to the chassis? Or if anyone knows the measurements that would be fresh.

The W203 uses the same transmission mount as those chassis, with a different cross member to mount on
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Here's a shot of the stock cross member next to the manual box
http://flic.kr/p/UdhdBV
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I haven't gotten a 400e member in my hands, I did learn it is 7 x 15 inches, but at this point I'll most likely adapt/weld the existing xmember to accept the new mount.

Here's a link to see the stock hole in the trans tunnel
http://www.flickr.com/gp/infinipi/536363
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You may have already solved the front sway bar fit problem but if not, I recommend one from a T-sedan (station wagon). They are fairly large diameter and, since the T-sedans came with a 6-cylinder engine, are bent "correctly." I have one in my '95 E300D.

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Thanks for that, Jeremy.

I got the solid flywheel kit in today - I need to do the rear main seal. Is it recomended to go with the Mercedes part? Was leaning towards Part # 112-997-02-46 . The repair seal by
erling klinger

Also going to redo the sump gasket
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Spoke to Bruce from peachparts and went with a repair seal by DPH
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Old 05-14-2017, 03:52 PM
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Here's a short video showing the wear line from the stock OEM rear main seal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4thCW5QFnk
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Lol, well a 'sway bar' is correctly named an Anti Roll Bar - ARB..


You can space the brackets down so the ARB does not contact the 606 sump as raised in your first post,


If you want you can see my temporary solution on page 2, and my better solution on page 5:


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I used to take my volvo to a german mechanic who used nearly zero slang. He said the noise was from a broken 'anti-rotation bar linkage'.
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Old 05-18-2017, 07:54 PM
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I've been told by a German speaker, it is a modular language.

Thought I fubared the rear main seal when the aluminum frame broke, then I realized the seals for these come in single use housings. The same covers are used on Sprinter CDIs from what I could tell.

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