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Old 11-10-2016, 08:41 PM
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Exhaust manifold wrap OM616/617

Is this worth the effort or a bad idea?

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Old 11-11-2016, 02:03 AM
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Long term, thermal coating is better.

Exhaust Header Heat Wraps - Do Not Use

I had my exhaust manifold on my 78' W116 300SD ceramic coated.
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Old 11-11-2016, 08:59 AM
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Neither wraps nor ceramic will do anything useful.
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I looked into it for Mutt but decided against either. The biggest advantage for me would have been lower underhood temps but so far that doesn't seem to be an issue in a 1 mile run. Besides, I suck combustion air from outside the body so it's pretty much at ambient temp before it hits the compressor.

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Old 11-11-2016, 01:05 PM
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If for no other reason, these cars already have issues with rust on the exhaust and wrap really holds in moisture and promotes it even more.

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Neither wraps nor ceramic will do anything useful.
It does too, it makes it all pretty.
I love bling.

First time I have read wraps are not good and can cause damage.
Iam not a Hot Rod kind of guy, so it never really interested me, and besides.
The extra weight might slow down my 240D.

Never thought about the rust issue it could cause.

How about a set of Zoomies, that would reduce all that unnecessary back pressure.
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Mutt has as close to zoomies as you can get and retain the turbo. Not much BP I'm guessing but disappointingly quiet.

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It does too, it makes it all pretty.
I love bling.

First time I have read wraps are not good and can cause damage.
Iam not a Hot Rod kind of guy, so it never really interested me, and besides.
The extra weight might slow down my 240D.

Never thought about the rust issue it could cause.

How about a set of Zoomies, that would reduce all that unnecessary back pressure.
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Old 11-11-2016, 04:28 PM
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I put exhaust wrap on my exhaust pipe after the turbo, as it travels through the engine compartment, to lower under hood temps. Seems to be working, although I've never run it without the wrap.

I left the turbo and the exhaust manifold alone.
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Old 11-30-2016, 06:55 PM
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I looked into it for Mutt but decided against either. The biggest advantage for me would have been lower underhood temps but so far that doesn't seem to be an issue in a 1 mile run. Besides, I suck combustion air from outside the body so it's pretty much at ambient temp before it hits the compressor.

Dan
Don't all of these stock diesels suck air from outside the engine bay?

I do understand the benefits of cooler induction and I suppose that's what I'm getting at. By wrapping or insulating the exhaust manifold, it would serve in maintaining that cool air temperature as near possible.
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Old 11-30-2016, 07:27 PM
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Exhaust Rust/Corrosion

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If for no other reason, these cars already have issues with rust on the exhaust and wrap really holds in moisture and promotes it even more.

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In my humble understanding, I should think one would have much larger issues to focus on if fiberglass wrap around the exhaust manifold was trapping water ;-)

Manifolds are subject mostly to stress and inter granular corrosion.
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Old 11-30-2016, 08:55 PM
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Sounds like you want to wrap it, so what are you asking for? Just do it and report the results.

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Old 11-30-2016, 10:19 PM
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Sounds like you want to wrap it, so what are you asking for? Just do it and report the results.

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Because I was hoping to gain some insight from others and don't want to waste my time if it's not of any benefit...?
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Old 11-30-2016, 11:01 PM
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Seems like you have enough info to decide to do it or not (don't forget Google too). Part of the problem is I'm not even sure how you could wrap the manifold in any meaningful way. The downpipe for sure, but you'd also need a turbo blanket or it would be pointless.

Exhaust wrap trapping moisture and promoting rust is well-documented. Guess that one depends on where you live. I've also seen them either melted through or cracked because of trapped heat. So take your pick.

You'll definitely get lower temps under the hood, but these engines like being hot, and they're not race cars so I would eat an old straw hat if it actually did anything positive.

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Old 12-04-2016, 01:47 AM
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....The downpipe for sure, but you'd also need a turbo blanket or it would be pointless....
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What about turbo blankets- do they do anything?

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