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oilslick 02-07-2017 09:38 AM

Transmission Interchange/300D Trans In A 230
 
W123 300D trans into a w123 230. Will that work?

benzguy300 02-07-2017 10:44 AM

No they won't interchange. The transmission from a 190E will interchange with the 230E they use the same engine

oilslick 02-07-2017 01:48 PM

Thanks!
 
Much appreciated.

sixto 02-07-2017 09:53 PM

But a 230 (not E) uses the older M115 engine, not the M103. A 615/6/7 transmission might bolt up or it might be a matter of swapping transmission adapters. Good luck with your search.

Sixto
83 300SD
98 E320 wagon

Stretch 02-08-2017 08:14 AM

If you're talking the older M115 engine I think the starter is on the opposite side of the OM61X engines so it won't even bolt up.

Mike D 02-08-2017 09:48 AM

Starter on the M115 is on the right hand side as is the M617. The problem will be the transmissions have different shifting patterns due to the difference between the torque curves of the engines. The M617's transmission will shift much too early for the M115.

Frank Reiner says you can transfer the valve body from the gasser 123's into the diesels to make it work. Of course this means you'd need to have a separate transmission to do the swap. Seems a bit redundant though, if you already had a gasser trans why would you be installing a diesel trans into the car?

I'm in a position much like yours. I have a 300CD with a trashed engine and I have a good spare M110. Trying to decide on whether I want to use the engine I have or wait until I find a cheap trashed SD and install the entire turbo engine.

Stretch 02-08-2017 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3681114)
Starter on the M115 is on the right hand side as is the M617...

Oh cock!

(As that long haired aging girl on that ex-BBC program might say)

sixto 02-09-2017 12:13 AM

Wouldn't the governor also be calibrated for Diesel rpms?

Sixto
83 300SD
98 E320 wagon

Stretch 02-09-2017 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sixto (Post 3681400)
Wouldn't the governor also be calibrated for Diesel rpms?

Sixto
83 300SD
98 E320 wagon

For the 722.1 transmissions I think they had a standard governor that just did its thing and this pressure was adapted / translated to "different meanings" by the valve body.

emjay 02-09-2017 07:01 AM

I thought that the governor for diesels was in the injection pump? As far as starter position, doesn't the plate between the trans and engine address that?

sixto 02-09-2017 10:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emjay (Post 3681434)
I thought that the governor for diesels was in the injection pump? As far as starter position, doesn't the plate between the trans and engine address that?

The transmission has its own governor. One function is to not downshift if wheel speed is too high.

An adapter plate won't help if the bell housing doesn't have a corresponding hump.

Sixto
83 300SD
98 E320 wagon


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