Hello folks,

Planning ahead wanting to install a new box at some stage, mine is okay but not 100% having carried out many adjustments fluid changes.

My '96 S124 (wagon) OM606.910 is fitted with four speed 722.435, however another box at a good price delivered has come up, unfortunately it's fitted to a W210 chassis OM606 (not sure if turbo or not), part number 722.438

the two boxes are listed here:

722.435 124-270-35-02 1995 300D 202-0002
722.438 210-270-01-00 1996 E300D

I have a 210 which uses the 722.6 fully electronic modules, however from the poor pictures this one appears still to be vacuum operated which potentially may make it compatible

Does any buff out there know what the last three digits signify?

Mercedes Benz 722.6 transmission application guide

Thanks all.

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David


1996 Mercedes S124 E300TD - 129k - rolling restoration project -

1998 Mercedes W210 300TD - 118k (assimilated into above vehicle)

There's a bit of a gap in time between the two transmissions you mention - there might be more difference than perhaps the numerical differences suggest.

Throughout the lifespan of the 722.3 they added more plastic junk making the last 722.3 transmissions about as good as the 722.4s (!) - Meaning they started out with a good product and then cheapened it out...

...to make sure you need real EPC access. I would expect that most of the internal pieces are going to be the same (however - that's me just guessing and hoping Mercedes didn't add in even more plastic ****) - the one thing that you ought to hone in on like a Magpie chasing tinsel is the valve body part numbers. These will most certainly be the bits in a vacuum controlled system that "tunes" the standard stuff to a specific final drive ratio.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

Cheers Stretch, v helpful.

I have some minor body work penciled in for later this year, would it be a better option to take it off the road, pull the box for reconditioning?

Another possibility is to get a box from these folks, eBay item number:322484402165 who are not far from me, either fitted or supply only.

The one listed is for 722.6, the 4 might be a bit cheaper with less cogs?

My only concern with the EPC thing is finding the correct parts. Ended up sending a thread link for another model when ordering B1,K1 and K2's piston bits, what was removed didn't match up to EPC for my vehicle with bagged/boxed labeled parts being not containing as listed.

Are there any kits available such as the ones offered by Cobra in the US, perhaps bring the whole box up to latest (for this model) spec?

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David


1996 Mercedes S124 E300TD - 129k - rolling restoration project -

1998 Mercedes W210 300TD - 118k (assimilated into above vehicle)

Unfortunately I see little connection between price and cogs as you put it. Pricing these days seems to be "how much can we extract before we are not able to sell stuff any more"...

...the EPC is meant to be the 100% failsafe solution to your problem - but you have to make sure you've got the correct serial number in the machine first.

As for "upgrading" - hmm - well - dunno for sure. On the whole I'd be "downgrading" the older stuff seems to be better before they "cheaped it out"!

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As for the first question - my experience has been that 8 out of 10 cats say "it is better the devil you know".

On the whole fixing something that was meant for something else gives an exponential rise in ball ache.

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!

For any advice on Mercedes transmissions contact Marc at Sun Valley Mercedes Transmissions located at 15468 Cabrito Road, Van Nuys, Ca. 91406 (818) 782-2300 Marc is the absolute guru when it comes to Mercedes Transmissions. Marc was the owner of Sun Valley Mercedes Dismantling in Sun Valley, Ca. Marc is very friendly and enjoys giving advice on Merceds transmissions.

Stretch, yes agree with your overall assessment, need to be careful not to turn this into another rear wheel bearing scenario -

"...put the kettle on dear, just going to pop out and remove the rear wheel bearings, won't be long"

: )

Received quote back from Planet Gears who reconditioned one 6 months ago - cost about $1,600 supply only, but does depend on how bad when torn down, also availability/cost of parts due to age.

I might run it through summer as no further damage being done then garage it over winter for strip down, can let him have the box to pull apart or do the same myself prior to sending across.

BW, thanks for the helpful info, can always drop him a line although located in UK?

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David


1996 Mercedes S124 E300TD - 129k - rolling restoration project -

1998 Mercedes W210 300TD - 118k (assimilated into above vehicle)

...just give them a call and pretend you're from Texas!

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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver
1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone
1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy!
1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing

I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior



Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits!