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Bloody blower motor.
1981 240D
Had an issue with plastic body fuses blowing last year, pulled the motor, cleaned, lubed, checked brushes (totally fine) and issue seemed to resolve. Driving out of the desert yesterday and the motor wouldn't turn on (cabin switch did nothing). AC compressor is working fine for what it's worth. Checked number 8 fuse, not blown. Also, I feel like this may be relevant -when the fan was working, and when the heat was on, I got only lukewarm air at idle. At speed, hot air no problem. If the fuse and brushes are fine, any ideas what my problem might be? Last edited by Shern; 04-17-2017 at 07:35 PM. Reason: Description of vehicle |
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Model and year of vehicle would be helpful.
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On many models, a seized aux water pump can make the entire hvac head unit shut down. Unplug the pump, if thevsystem begins working you will have thw culprit.
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Fuse 8 - I will take a shot in the dark that is a W123.
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Apologies, sloppy on my part... 1981 240d
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The 240D is very simple. No electronic controls at all.
I had the problem on my 240D where the motor was wearing out and it melted the #8 fuse holder. Fortunately the #5 fuse holder is completely unused on these cars. You can dismount the fuse box (disconnect the battery first!) and let it drop it down under the dash to the floor board. Swap the wires from the #8 fuse to the #5 fuse on the back of the fuse block. The 240D does not have an auxiliary pump to keep the flow up like the upmodel 300D and the S class of that era. So you will get some cool air at stoplights.
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So if it's not the fuse, what might the issue be? Why wouldn't the blower be switching on?
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Test the motor with 12V. If it doesn't run, you know the blower motor is bad. Upstream from that is the resistor assembly. Try running the blower on max fan and see if it runs, if it does, the resistor assembly may be bad. Running on the highest speed bypasses the resistors.
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Is the Moter getting voltage and how much voltage? Is the Motor Ground making good contact? Mine has a siemens instead of a bosch motor. Here is a pic of what was wrong with mine. One of the crimped on wire connectors was corroded. A blob of solder over the bad connection restored it. So problems can show up anywhere in the circuit. I also lubed it and replaced a bearing. Also there was lots of dirt inside.
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I'll pull it and have a look... it was a particularly hot day in the desert. Was running A/C on max, pulled in to refuel and by the time I pulled onto the highway, realized nothing was coming out of the vents and that the fan wasn't working.
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Tested the motor and it's working fine. I'm not getting any voltage at the connector harness however. What's the next level up?
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The switch and resistor pack feed the motor. The switch has 4 states. Off, 1, 2, 3. The resistor has 2 sections - with 3 terminals.
Off - off, no connection 1 - all the resistor in series with the motor 2 - half the resistor in series with the motor (other half shorted by a switch contact) 3 - none of the resistor in the circuit, both halves shorted out by switch contacts.
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In theory -if I understand you- switch 3 should bypass the resistor altogether.
I'm not getting current to the fan at any setting. |
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I think it's time to play "follow the money" with the meter...
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Totally, that's my question though. I'm not sure where to look next.
Fuse 8 is getting juice. |
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