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I've read that we are unlikely to see classic Teslas owing to the brick phenomenon. Though I understand there is some controversy on that point.
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Lot of talk here about VW and GM, but there are suits against MB too. Their Bluetec emission system gets turned off below 10deg C . In Canada, that means 60% of the time. Law suits in both countries. Our GLK250 is one of the cars in question. Great vehicle though.
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The real problem is the elitist clowns who live in mansions and fly on private jets while telling the rest of us to cut back. Or calling us "deniers" for asking questions about their faulty climate theories.
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I don't see the internal combustion engine going anywhere in the airplane application either - jet (turbine) or piston type.
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Do you mean the elitists that live in hotels with their own names on them and fly in private jets than have their own names on them to golf courses that also have their own names on them? Oh, you mean the "other" elitists. Got it.
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VW met the requirements when the emissions were turned on. But, what they did was install a defeat device that shut the emissions off unless the car detected it was being tested. That is not designing to the rules, it's entirely avoiding them. FCA, M-B, GM, and most likely we will find many others that also installed defeat devices...which is what they are getting into hot water for now as well.
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Correct. Mr. Hotel isn't telling me to cut back, or lining the pockets of his friends with my bucks, or insulting me with long winded empty headed speeches like his predecessor.
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Some animals are created more equal than others. Nothing to see here, move along...
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But it all about perspective. Knowing I might have to pay later is not all that bad. My friends and neighbors each had transmission issues with their vehicles. Two of them own a Honda Odyssey and a Honda MDX and both shelled out almost $5000 on unexpected transmission replacements after their warranty expired. The third had a Buick Enclave, same cost for the transmission replacement and said to hell with it and traded the car in. So new cars these days are hit and miss. You think you got a good reliable car and boom, your paying the same amount of money as a new main traction battery. All about perspective. Btw- My 2005 Prius recently had the dreaded lights go up on the dashboard. It’s been very reliable all these years until then. I ended up pulling the codes, removing the traction battery out of the car and fixed it by replacing two low battery modules. A $50 eBay fix by myself saves me $4000 at the dealership and I am on my way. .
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I don't remember seeing many '60's cars in the '80's, or '70's cars in the '90's... That really hasn't been any different than it is today. For most people a car is an A-to-B appliance. My wife thinks operating her vehicle is just as exciting as operating, say, a dishwasher or a lawnmower. It's a task that needs to be done, not one that is to be enjoyed. Whether it's her Camry (which actually is an appliance, I hate that thing) or my Lil' zoom-zoom Mazda or Ol'Betsie; she sees no difference between the three. She doesn't get the excitement of zipping the 5-speed Mazda hard around sharp corners or lazily cruisin' in ye olde Benz. She is the rule, not the exception. We are. So everyone throws their A-to-B appliance away after 7-10 years and gets something else. Has always been the case, will always be the case.
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"The MB W123 is so bulletproof, you can drive them forever. Which is a good thing as it takes that long to get anywhere." Betsie: 1984 W123 300D (hobby, 280k miles) Myrla: 2001 Mazda Protege 2.0 ES 5spd (daily driver, 130k miles) The Turd: 2007 Toyota Camry (wife's car, 118k miles) |
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