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austincalvello 06-03-2017 07:29 PM

300d not starting after fuel filter replacement
 
i have an 82 300d turbo ran great saw the fuel filters were getting dirty got the parts replaced them and now it wont start. I loosened the injectors and fuel was coming out, tightened them down and still wont start, my primer pump is leaking but would that cause it to not start? also getting a weird burning smell when i try and crank it now, did i fry the ignition or starter? any input helps, my battery is dead now ha! thank you.

rocky raccoon 06-03-2017 07:38 PM

Yes, the leaking primer pump is also allowing air into the system. Replace it with the inexpensive more modern one that is foolproof. Your fuel system, when properly sealed, is self-bleeding. Charge your battery after replacing the primer pump and crank away. Crank no more than 20 seconds at a time, allowing your starter to cool down between. It will start.

austincalvello 06-03-2017 07:52 PM

do i have to re bleed the injector lines after replacing the primer pump?

Father Of Giants 06-03-2017 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austincalvello (Post 3716441)
do i have to re bleed the injector lines after replacing the primer pump?

Yes.

rocky raccoon 06-03-2017 09:20 PM

Disagree. As I said, if your fuel system is fully sealed with no air leaks, the OM617 will self-bleed.

jake12tech 06-04-2017 12:35 AM

With an optimal fuel system, you're still going to be putting a lot of stress getting this thing to "self" prime. Who cares if it can? Why stress the battery and starter like that and take the 10 minutes it takes to bleed a diesel?

crazy4diesel 06-04-2017 10:20 AM

This is correct, why stress the mechanicals on the system. If the hand pump doesn't do it, I've use the vacuum oil extractor on the till I see fuel in the line, works everytime.

austincalvello 06-05-2017 03:06 PM

Does anyone know the size wrench I need to get the old one off?

austincalvello 06-05-2017 04:41 PM

I still got nothing. Replaced the fuel primer bleed the system and have been cranking for about 15 mins. Still smelling a weird burning occasionally. It almost started or sounded like it wanted to.

austincalvello 06-05-2017 04:43 PM

I've got the battery hooked up jumping from another car and it still sounds like it's not getting enough power, could my battery be too worn down?

SD Blue 06-05-2017 05:07 PM

Did you do the filter change on a cold engine?
If so, try a full glow cycle before cranking.

Also, did you fill the main filter with fuel before installation?

austincalvello 06-05-2017 05:17 PM

i drove it to get the filters and then changed them. Could it possibly be my battery? I was jumping it with a honda accord but would only get one solid crank and it would almost start then it would sound like my battery was too low again even though the cables were still connected.

austincalvello 06-05-2017 05:18 PM

also filled the filter with fuel.

Diesel911 06-05-2017 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocky raccoon (Post 3716465)
Disagree. As I said, if your fuel system is fully sealed with no air leaks, the OM617 will self-bleed.

It can bleed out a tiny amount of air. Less difficult if the engine is already running.

But, Air got into the system it gets trapped between the Fuel Injection Pump inside of the Fuel Injection Hard Lines. When that happens it takes a lot cranking to get it out.

It is easier to loosen the Fuel Injection Hard Lines at the Injectors and cranking till the air is out quickly then to drain your battery and stress your starter trying to crank the Air out.

Diesel911 06-05-2017 10:45 PM

If the Engine was running OK and you changed the Filter; even if you filter was dry if you pump enoung on the Hand Primer till you here a squishy or squeeky sound from the Fuel Injection Pump.
That should get the air out of the fuel supply section of the fuel pump and since the engine was running OK before you sould get no air into the fuel injection part of the system.

As mentioned filling thel spin-on fuel filter also helps but you should it is still a good idea to pump on the hand primer till you hear that squiahey sound.


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