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Adriel 06-08-2017 12:48 PM

Throw W123 parts in the trash?
 
Come to grips with the reality no one wants the '79 TD parts, right?

Just sitting here, cluttering the place up, and deteriorating.

Should be able to get a few dollars in scrap value form the TD engine and transmission.

Sad, as one day these parts be even harder to find. But, not like when I move can take it all with me and hold onto for 50 years.

Diseasel300 06-08-2017 12:55 PM

I haven't noticed ANYTHING listed for sale by you in the "For Sale" section of this forum. You might try there first before tossing anything. Nobody's psychic, we can't read your thoughts. If you don't list your stuff for sale where someone can find it, don't expect it to be claimed or bought.

Adriel 06-08-2017 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Diseasel300 (Post 3718122)
I haven't noticed ANYTHING listed for sale by you in the "For Sale" section of this forum. You might try there first before tossing anything. Nobody's psychic, we can't read your thoughts. If you don't list your stuff for sale where someone can find it, don't expect it to be claimed or bought.

I did several years ago. Do you have to keep bumping it? Thought that was rude.

Maybe you can help on this too. I would get a bite, respond back, then never hear from them again.

Mike D 06-08-2017 01:10 PM

The last I remember you mentioning selling the parts, you were keeping the engine. Have you decided to sell it? What are you asking for the engine with turbo set-up?

Adriel 06-08-2017 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3718130)
The last I remember you mentioning selling the parts, you were keeping the engine. Have you decided to sell it? What are you asking for the engine with turbo set-up?

Mike, the non-turbo is parts, as has a bad ring. Was hoping to keep the 300TD-T engine to keep her numbers matching, but guess could put something else in when do get her back on the road.

312,000 miles, great compression, 15 plus years of regular service, with a lot of new/rebuilt parts, including the turbocharger with less than 500 miles. S.L.S. was in working condition.

What is it worth to you?

Diseasel300 06-08-2017 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriel (Post 3718128)
I did several years ago. Do you have to keep bumping it? Thought that was rude.

Maybe you can help on this too. I would get a bite, respond back, then never hear from them again.

It isn't rude if you're trying to keep your listing active. If you still can find your listing, go bump it to get it higher up in the forum results.

Mike D 06-08-2017 01:34 PM

Umm, I appear to have spoken too soon. Mentioned it to the wife and a mutual agreement was that I was not going to start another new project until my final class was completed. 07-27. Sigh. The other option was to fly her out to see her sister for a couple of weeks' vacation. A quick check on finances put the kibosh on that.

Sorry and I wish you good luck selling the stuff.

crazy4diesel 06-08-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriel (Post 3718128)
I did several years ago. Do you have to keep bumping it? Thought that was rude.

Maybe you can help on this too. I would get a bite, respond back, then never hear from them again.

One of the most annoying behaviours known to man: "Do you still have X". "Yes it's still available." Then crickets...it blows my mind.

moon161 06-08-2017 02:11 PM

Acknowledging that transport might be be a problem, off the top of my head I can think of :
SLS pump
Rear hatch door card and interior trim.
Third row seat & hardware.
Resonator

If it works the SLS pumps seem to get good money on e bay.


You might see if rebuilt remanufactured mercedes benz automatic transmissions want the transmission. Nevermind, I thought they were in AZ.

Mike D 06-08-2017 02:39 PM

Mayhaps we can work a deal and help Adriel out at the same time. I have no use for the SLS pump. I'm looking for an engine to drop into my '81 CD and I'm not putting in another N.A. OM617.

Whaddya think Adriel? A couple of hundred Yankee dollars for the complete engine?

Would you agree to $75 for the pump, Moonbeam? Shipping to you would be about $20 or a little less I'd imagine. I'd yank and pack it.

martureo 06-08-2017 02:41 PM

Last ditch for selling SLS pumps should be sending them to C&M Hydraulics in Las Vegas. I sent four to them and got $60 each as cores.

Adriel 06-08-2017 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3718198)
Mayhaps we can work a deal and help Adriel out at the same time. I have no use for the SLS pump. I'm looking for an engine to drop into my '81 CD and I'm not putting in another N.A. OM617.

Whaddya think Adriel? A couple of hundred Yankee dollars for the complete engine?

Would you agree to $75 for the pump, Moonbeam? Shipping to you would be about $20 or a little less I'd imagine. I'd yank and pack it.

Thank you so very much! :D

Okay, $200 without the S.L.S. head for the non-turbo engine. Will get the crane out after lunch.

Mike D 06-08-2017 03:01 PM

Umm, no. We seem to be having a miscommunication problem.

" I'm looking for an engine to drop into my '81 CD and I'm not putting in another N.A. OM617."

I thought you were selling the turbo diesel.

"312,000 miles, great compression, 15 plus years of regular service, with a lot of new/rebuilt parts, including the turbocharger with less than 500 miles. S.L.S. was in working condition."

Adriel 06-08-2017 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3718204)
Umm, no. We seem to be having a miscommunication problem.

" I'm looking for an engine to drop into my '81 CD and I'm not putting in another N.A. OM617."

I thought you were selling the turbo diesel.

"312,000 miles, great compression, 15 plus years of regular service, with a lot of new/rebuilt parts, including the turbocharger with less than 500 miles. S.L.S. was in working condition."

As it states, '79 TD. The TD-T did not come out until '81.

If going to pull an engine from a wagon was keeping whole, rather just sell it at market value, as it isn't in the way. The front quarter (missing the sunroof) of the TD is in the back garden taking up space (back half is in the corner used as parts storage). Also, lot of the TD parts are on the patio and the furniture is out in the yard.

Mike D 06-08-2017 03:24 PM

Okay, my mistake. I misunderstood you. I thought you were selling the turbo-ed engine. Glad we got it straightened out before you started yanking the engine out.

Adriel 06-08-2017 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3718211)
Okay, my mistake. I misunderstood you. I thought you were selling the turbo-ed engine. Glad we got it straightened out before you started yanking the engine out.

Mike, the TD engine is basically ready to be pulled, just one engine mount bolt is stuck. Thing is the M110 is on the crane now being worked on, but be easy to get that sitting on the floor, then get the crane through the house and out back.

Hey, when things are resolved and able to make an offer for the turbocharged OM617a, bet will still be here. Not planing to build the TDL anytime soon, might never happen.

Adriel 06-08-2017 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by crazy4diesel (Post 3718172)
One of the most annoying behaviours known to man: "Do you still have X". "Yes it's still available." Then crickets...it blows my mind.

Thank you for letting me know it is them, not me.

Though most frustrating was preparing the doors to be shipped off, then find out he wanted pristine doors, even under the rubber seal, and I was asking far below market trying to help out (was hit and not at fault).

Quote:

Originally Posted by moon161 (Post 3718175)
Acknowledging that transport might be be a problem, off the top of my head I can think of :
SLS pump
Rear hatch door card and interior trim.
Third row seat & hardware.
Resonator

If it works the SLS pumps seem to get good money on e bay.


You might see if rebuilt remanufactured mercedes benz automatic transmissions want the transmission. Nevermind, I thought they were in AZ.

Thank you for the advice, much appreciated! :D

Started looking on eBay again and was shocked at the prices for an S.L.S. non-turbo head. :eek: Shouldn't be something hard to store once off the engine, so alright if take a while (not like in high demand).

Surprised the interior panels have any value, considering never wear out and these aren't in the best shape.

If had the third row, would pit that in the TE. ;)

Good idea on the transmission! Am going to be driving up to Portland this Summer, so if they wanted it, could bring it along.

Quote:

Originally Posted by martureo (Post 3718199)
Last ditch for selling SLS pumps should be sending them to C&M Hydraulics in Las Vegas. I sent four to them and got $60 each as cores.

Wow, didn't know about this resource, thank you! :D Not sure of the condition, so if doesn't sell, just go that route. Am shocked a core is worth that much.

Adriel 06-08-2017 06:27 PM

How about giving me feedback on my for sale post? Maybe eBay price divided in half is too high.

"Parting out a '79/'80 W123 300TD. Any reasonable offer considered, including combining.

Automatic transmission was working, though no service history. $300

Engine for parts only, due to a bad piston ring, though of course rather sell whole for $750.
Support arms $25 each
Pulleys $25 each
Injectors $30 each, or $125 for all five.
Air filter housing $75
S.L.S pump $125
S.L.S. tank $100
Do have the S.L.S. hard lines if anyone interested.
Fuel pump with A.D.A. and hard lines $125
Power steering pump $50
Thermostat housing $50
Intake manifold $100
Exhaust manifold $100
Engine fan $50
Cylinder head $500
Pistons $50 each or $225 for the set
Crankshaft $100

All the interior was not perfect, dash cracked, so doubt any interest there, but informing that still have it, even the carpet for patterns.
The 2nd row wagon only seats were in the best shape, $200 for all of it.
Glove box $25

Hood $175 each
Grill $50"

Thank you so very much in advance for any help! :D

jake12tech 06-08-2017 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adriel (Post 3718276)
How about giving me feedback on my for sale post? Maybe eBay price divided in half is too high.

"Parting out a '79/'80 W123 300TD. Any reasonable offer considered, including combining.

Automatic transmission was working, though no service history. $300

Engine for parts only, due to a bad piston ring, though of course rather sell whole for $750. with a bad ring $200
Support arms $25 each
Pulleys $25 each
Injectors $30 each, or $125 for all five. are they rebuilt? if not $50 for the whole set
Air filter housing $50
S.L.S pump $125
S.L.S. tank $100
Do have the S.L.S. hard lines if anyone interested.
Fuel pump with A.D.A. and hard lines if this is the injection pump, i'd sell it for $300 on eBay
Power steering pump $50
Thermostat housing $50
Intake manifold $50 NA parts aren't worth that much
Exhaust manifold $50
Engine fan $50
Cylinder head $200 again, it's an NA head.. won't work on a turbo
Pistons $50 each or $225 for the set
Crankshaft $100

All the interior was not perfect, dash cracked, so doubt any interest there, but informing that still have it, even the carpet for patterns.
The 2nd row wagon only seats were in the best shape, $200 for all of it.
Glove box $25

Hood $175 each
Grill $50"

Thank you so very much in advance for any help! :D

I modified your parts list with what I think is fair and what most people would be willing to pay in BOLD with corrections. Clarify on the injectors as well and if you mean the injection pump. Good luck Adriel! you could easily have 2 grand there in parts alone.. just will take time

Junkman 06-08-2017 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3718155)
Mentioned it to the wife and a mutual agreement was that I was not going to start another new project until my final class was completed. 07-27. Sigh.

It isn't "really" starting a project when you're only collecting parts that you'll soon need. That only starts when you acquire he vehicle.

Mine said "no projects until you finish some". I interpret that to mean that I can go wild on the current projects.

Adriel 06-08-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jake12tech (Post 3718277)
I modified your parts list with what I think is fair and what most people would be willing to pay in BOLD with corrections. Clarify on the injectors as well and if you mean the injection pump. Good luck Adriel! you could easily have 2 grand there in parts alone.. just will take time

Jake, thank you so very much! :D

The head alone is worth at least $250, plus all the rest, so why sell the engine at the same price? Just curious.

Good point about clarifying the injectors.

Why only eBay for the injection pump? And yes, my brain forgot the term... :o :rolleyes:

Would be happy with even $1,500, that provide five months of living expenses. As for time, if can get the engine out of here, that free up a lot. Next be the seats, dash, H.V.A.C. box, hey wait, that isn't on the list...

Adriel 06-08-2017 07:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman (Post 3718282)
It isn't "really" starting a project when you're only collecting parts that you'll soon need. That only starts when you acquire he vehicle.

Mine said "no projects until you finish some". I interpret that to mean that I can go wild on the current projects.

Maybe should stay single. :P Though vehicals and parts don't satisfy the companionship and sharing experiences.

Nice methods of interpreting the rules, Junkman.

Sadly though, Mike has another pressing financial obligation, but not planning on parting the 300TD-T so should still be available when he is ready.

vwnate1 06-09-2017 10:58 AM

Why
 
" so why sell the engine at the same price? Just curious "

Because you said " If you need anything, please let me know and will give you a good deal." and then ask full retail price for unwaranteed parts .

You offered me a bent and non working TD antenna for $100 (?!) when Mercedes Specific Junk yards get less than that for guaranteed ones and most independent Junk yards get $20 for a working one then you got snarky when I politely pointed this out .

I imagine you don't get further replies because of your failure to ask reasonable prices .

Don't get upset, just be aware you're not working in reality .

I'm no longer interested in your parts in any case .

Adriel 06-09-2017 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnate1 (Post 3718501)
" so why sell the engine at the same price? Just curious "

Because you said " If you need anything, please let me know and will give you a good deal." and then ask full retail price for unwaranteed parts .

You offered me a bent and non working TD antenna for $100 (?!) when Mercedes Specific Junk yards get less than that for guaranteed ones and most independent Junk yards get $20 for a working one then you got snarky when I politely pointed this out .

I imagine you don't get further replies because of your failure to ask reasonable prices .

Don't get upset, just be aware you're not working in reality .

I'm no longer interested in your parts in any case .

Nate, if you look, I took Jake's advice to a degree. Actually, thinking if just tear it down, then can get it out of the way, rather than wait on someone to purchase whole.

I didn't ask full retail. Full retail would have been $300.

So, you ask for a motor and then upset the antenna is bent? How is that my fault I misunderstood what you wanted?

Didn't get snarky that am aware of, could you show me?

Actually, I offered it to you for $20, so don't see why you are stuck on the $100, to help someone that thought a friend, but get stabbed in the back publicly.

Reduced my prices down as recommended. So yes, might not and need to reduce further.

I am only upset by me trusting someone that decided to publicly attack me. Why be upset at advice? Did I get upset at Jake for suggesting prices? I don't think so, as showed my appreciation not only in word, but deed.

I be interested in only selling if you were polite, as don't want people am scared of having my address.

chasinthesun 06-09-2017 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike D (Post 3718211)
Okay, my mistake. I misunderstood you. I thought you were selling the turbo-ed engine. Glad we got it straightened out before you started yanking the engine out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by crazy4diesel (Post 3718172)
One of the most annoying behaviours known to man: "Do you still have X". "Yes it's still available." Then crickets...it blows my mind.

I can trump all the above,get a call at 7pm about certain 300d parts ,set price for said parts ,pushed to get parts together because the buyer is finalizing a car of his own ,arrive at storage where parts car is located 30 min. away from my location at 6am the next morning ,spend 2 hrs gathering parts ,wait at location ,crickets.
I would gather them ,picture them ,set price for all ,boxed and shipped for set price . Wait for the right person , ship .

Adriel 06-09-2017 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasinthesun (Post 3718536)
I can trump all the above,get a call at 7pm about certain 300d parts ,set price for said parts ,pushed to get parts together because the buyer is finalizing a car of his own ,arrive at storage where parts car is located 30 min. away from my location at 6am the next morning ,spend 2 hrs gathering parts ,wait at location ,crickets.
I would gather them ,picture them ,set price for all ,boxed and shipped for set price . Wait for the right person , ship .

Ha, nice trump. :D

And of course he didn't answer his telephone.

Good idea on just taking pictures, packaging, get a rough weight for shipping cost, then put up in the attic for when eventually get to it.

Except, only giving a month, then throwing out the masonite interior panels. I need that shelf space back.

chasinthesun 06-09-2017 04:49 PM

I didnt have to pay storage til jan . of this yr. Now that I do its a monthly reminder to get the stuff gone.

Adriel 06-09-2017 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chasinthesun (Post 3718639)
I didnt have to pay storage til jan . of this yr. Now that I do its a monthly reminder to get the stuff gone.

Ouch. I hate having storage unit, so I don't. Only one in the family that doesn't.

Guess we both either have to sell or trash.

vwnate1 06-09-2017 11:30 PM

LYING
 
Just to set the record straight : you never offered me anything for $20, period .

Lying is always wrong and doesn't make you look innocent .

EDIT: others here have contacted me off list and warned me about your dishonesty so don't compound it by lying more , O.K.? .

Adriel 06-10-2017 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vwnate1 (Post 3718757)
Just to set the record straight : you never offered me anything for $20, period .

Lying is always wrong and doesn't make you look innocent .

EDIT: others here have contacted me off list and warned me about your dishonesty so don't compound it by lying more , O.K.? .

How is asking you to make a counter offer not the same as offering it for $20?

Guess need to post all the letters and have them evaluated? Then could learn from it.

ROLLGUY 06-10-2017 11:58 AM

I am not making anyone think a non turbo head is worth as much as a turbo one, but I believe the casting is the same. Turbo valves and cam are for sure different. However, If someone had a cracked or badly warped turbo head, an N/A head casting could be used with all the turbo parts. Of course the guides would need to be replaced as well as the standard valve and seat grind and head surfacing. Also, if someone has a non-SLS engine that is good, and they want to put it in a wagon, the N/A bare head would be a good donor for a rebuilt turbo wagon head.........Rich

Adriel 06-10-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROLLGUY (Post 3718857)
I am not making anyone think a non turbo head is worth as much as a turbo one, but I believe the casting is the same. Turbo valves and cam are for sure different. However, If someone had a cracked or badly warped turbo head, an N/A head casting could be used with all the turbo parts. Of course the guides would need to be replaced as well as the standard valve and seat grind and head surfacing. Also, if someone has a non-SLS engine that is good, and they want to put it in a wagon, the N/A bare head would be a good donor for a rebuilt turbo wagon head.........Rich

Rich, thank you so very much for clarifying! :D

Now thanks to you, can at least put that in the notes. Heck, no rush to sell as might need it someday myself. :P


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