|
|
|
#1
|
|||
|
|||
considering purchasing 98E300TD
I own a 99 E300TD with around 212k miles. This seems crazy but I am considering purchasing a 98 E300TD with 188K miles. My girlfriend currently needs a car and this one seems like a really good deal. I have always thought that its obnoxious when couples have matching cars, but if its as good of a deal as it seems it will provide her transportation and also serve as a backup if a major component fails on one of the cars. The car is supposedly in perfect shape except it needs a rear bumper. I have found a rear bumper at a local pick and pull junk yard for $75. Since I already own one of these cars I should know the answer to the questions I'm about to ask but it always helps to hear others opinions.
1. Was there anything different/new on the 99 model vs the 98 model? 2. I have not seen the rear end of the car, but I have been told that it just needs a bumper. Is putting a replacement rear bumper on these cars pretty straight forward, or is it complicated? 3. Can anyone suggest anything particular that I should take a close look at when inspecting this car? Thanks to everyone who provides feedback.
__________________
2006 E320CDI- current dd 1999 E300TD - retired Wilmington, NC USA |
#2
|
||||
|
||||
The 99 has these features that a 98 does not:
- side air bags in the back doors as well as the front doors (98 is front only) - the stereo has been changed, instead of the analog Becker 1692 it is the first generation fiber optic (Audio 30?) with everything integrated on a D2B fiber optic ring. - The LCD in the cluster is updated to a menu driven system with steering wheel controls. Mechanically the cars are the same. Same engine, transmission, and controls. The only thing to watch for on pulling the rear bumper is if the car has Parktronic, and also watch out for the old analog cell phone patch antennas in the rear bumper. I'm assuming as a current owner of a 98 you know where to look for the trouble spots for rust (spring perches, door penetrations, molding mount points, etc). If you end up buying it I would do a couple things on principle when I got it home: - rubber brake hoses, they are 20 years old - front wheel bearings (so much cheaper and easier if you catch before the bearing seizes and ruins the spindle that it is worth it to take care of it regardless) - service the transmission unless you have proof it was recently done, with the proper fluid - new low pressure fuel lines (they should be clear, if they are opaque it is time to replace) don't forget the o-ring behind the shut off valve - new fuel filters - Verify all the retention clips are in place on the high pressure fuel lines to the injectors Good luck
__________________
The OM 642/722.9 powered family Still going strong 2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD) 2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD) both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023 2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles) 2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles) 1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh 1987 300TD sold to vstech |
#3
|
|||
|
|||
Thanks jay_bob. I actually own a 99 and i'm considering purchasing a 98. What exactly is "parktronic?" Also, as far as the "trouble spots" you mentioned, I don't have any rust on my 99 so I'm not exactly sure where you are are talking about. I am assuming the door spring hinges and the areas where the body panels meet...is this correct? And thanks for the suggestion to replace the front wheel bearings as this is something that I have not done on my 99 so I will definitely be doing this soon.
__________________
2006 E320CDI- current dd 1999 E300TD - retired Wilmington, NC USA |
#4
|
||||
|
||||
The '99's also have a different 3rd brake light. The '98's and earlier have the more square-ish assembly that gets roasted by the sun and cracks...
__________________
-Evan Benz Fleet: 1968 UNIMOG 404.114 1998 E300 2008 E63 Non-Benz Fleet: 1992 Aerostar 1993 MR2 2000 F250 |
#5
|
||||
|
||||
Sorry I got the years backwards.
Parktronic is the MB trade name for the sonar parking assist system that is prevalent on just about everything today. The W210 was first MB that had it. The sensors are about the size of a quarter and distributed about the front and rear bumpers. Anyway the trouble spots for rust on a W210 on the body are the penetrations behind the door molding, the door handles, the trunk lock, the trunk emblem, etc. Basically anywhere there is a painted surface with a hole in it, covered by something else. The constant vibration of the covering item wears through the paint and opens up an entry point for rust. They used an environmentally friendly new paint process that unfortunately did not adhere as well as the prior processes. The other big problem with a W210 is the spring perches by the front wheels. They were welded to the front body and the joint covered with mastic. Sometimes the mastic gets a hole in it, water gets in, the joint corrodes, and one day *pop* the perch separates from the car body. This is very difficult to see under the mastic until it's too late. It is repairable.
__________________
The OM 642/722.9 powered family Still going strong 2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD) 2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD) both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023 2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles) 2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles) 1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh 1987 300TD sold to vstech |
#6
|
|||
|
|||
Thanks again jay_bob. I am going to take a look at the car tomorrow. It is located about an hour away from me. I asked the owner to send me a picture of the damaged bumper. There is also a dent/surface rust on the body below the passenger side tail light. Does this look like it is something that a good body repair person can fix? I know that where that dent is located is not just a small quarter panel, its a very large section of the body...
__________________
2006 E320CDI- current dd 1999 E300TD - retired Wilmington, NC USA |
#7
|
||||
|
||||
This should be able to be taken care of by a good body shop.
Link to video showing the production of the 210, at about 4:30 you can see how much of the side of the car is made from one contiguous piece of steel. https://youtu.be/dPNR44R9gX8
__________________
The OM 642/722.9 powered family Still going strong 2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD) 2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD) both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023 2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles) 2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles) 1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh 1987 300TD sold to vstech |
#8
|
|||
|
|||
There's a lot to gain by have two of the same vehicle in your stable. The big one is familiarity with the car. The other is commonality of parts. You could always substitute parts for diagnosis. Then there's special tools... parts source for ordering... shop manual... etc.
__________________
95 E320 Cabriolet, 159K |
#9
|
||||
|
||||
If you end up getting the 98 and it still has the original Becker 1692, here is how to add hands free and music streaming to the existing stereo using a Parrot adapter:
Analog Cell phone update - 1998 W210
__________________
The OM 642/722.9 powered family Still going strong 2014 ML350 Bluetec (wife's DD) 2013 E350 Bluetec (my DD) both my kids cars went to junkyard in 2023 2008 ML320 CDI (Older son’s DD) fatal transmission failure, water soaked/fried rear SAM, numerous other issues, just too far gone to save (165k miles) 2008 E320 Bluetec (Younger son's DD) injector failed open and diluted oil with diesel, spun main bearings (240k miles) 1998 E300DT sold to TimFreeh 1987 300TD sold to vstech |
#10
|
||||
|
||||
If you end up with two 210's, you need a parts car. Between two friends of mine, they have three. Having a parts car has been a good thing, and has played off. One of the cars needed a radiator and other parts. The cost would have been about what was paid for the parts car. From now on, the parts are free!
|
#11
|
|||
|
|||
I didn't end up buying that car...it was complete junk
__________________
2006 E320CDI- current dd 1999 E300TD - retired Wilmington, NC USA |
#12
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
2006 E320CDI- current dd 1999 E300TD - retired Wilmington, NC USA |
#13
|
||||
|
||||
Sway bar bushings. Spray some wd40 on them until you replace them. Do the end links as well.
__________________
Only diesels in this driveway. 2005 E320 CDI 243k Black/Black 2008 Chevy 3500HD Duramax 340k 2004 Chevy 2500HD Duramax 220k |
#14
|
|||
|
|||
Quote:
__________________
96 E300d |
Bookmarks |
|
|