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09-03-2017, 09:14 PM
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manual trans conv
W123 manual transmissions;
There appear to be two types, early/late, one piece and two piece, iron/aluminum? Any functional difference between them? Preference? Will a late (82) trans fit an early 240 (79)? 
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09-03-2017, 09:36 PM
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Should be no difference functionally and will fit any model 123 body except late euro models with the 190e engine.
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual.  [SIGPIC]..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
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09-04-2017, 01:22 PM
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The shift linkages are completely different though. The later 4-speed and then 5-speed was used in the 190's as well, but I don't know for how long, or with what engines.
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1983 W123 300TD US spec Turbo engine, with Euro bumpers and manual climate control, and manual transmission.
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09-05-2017, 10:21 AM
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I have a complete car that came with a euro 240d it had a 616 and a 5 speed, it is for sale.....
As I understand going from auto to manual it is best to buy the whole car so you get the shifter, pedals, driveshaft, and trans cross-member. but I haven't done the swap myself.
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1983 240d 5Sp SOLD 1986 300D(LUCO) SOLD 1983 300TD(dreamboat)SOLD 1984 240d (Executive)SOLD 1984 240d (Euripides) SOLD 1982 300sd SOLD 1982 300sd (Ambas)SOLD
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11-30-2017, 11:02 AM
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the whole car is 2000 you get EVERYTHING!!!!! HAH, but seriously it is a complete car so all the linkage, transmission and crossmember ect ect...
Email me at rjz5400@hotmail.com
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1983 240d 5Sp SOLD 1986 300D(LUCO) SOLD 1983 300TD(dreamboat)SOLD 1984 240d (Executive)SOLD 1984 240d (Euripides) SOLD 1982 300sd SOLD 1982 300sd (Ambas)SOLD
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11-30-2017, 11:05 AM
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Is it a running driving car?
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[SIGPIC] Diesel loving autocrossing grandpa Architect. 08 Dodge 3/4 ton with Cummins & six speed; I have had about 35 benzes. I have a 39 Studebaker Coupe Express pickup in which I have had installed a 617 turbo and a five speed manual. [SIGPIC]..I also have a 427 Cobra replica with an aluminum chassis.
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11-30-2017, 07:23 PM
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yes, not a daily but yes with a jump it runs really well and drives all over.
Well described in the FS forum
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1983 240d 5Sp SOLD 1986 300D(LUCO) SOLD 1983 300TD(dreamboat)SOLD 1984 240d (Executive)SOLD 1984 240d (Euripides) SOLD 1982 300sd SOLD 1982 300sd (Ambas)SOLD
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12-02-2017, 09:28 AM
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Quote:
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12-02-2017, 10:05 AM
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To address the original post:
The "early" trans with the cast iron case was made by Mercedes and is rumored to be a bit stronger than the later, aluminum case. The later trans was made by Getrag. I run the aluminum case trans in Mutt the Race Truck with no issues. I think the switch from iron to aluminum case was 1981 though I'm not positive on that - my trans was from an '83 240D. I agree with getting the whole car for the swap bits. Even putting the trans into an S-10 pickup it was far easier to have the crossmember, shifter and linkage, etc. than to try to source all that stuff individually. I replaced the shift linkage bushings and it shifts as smooth as silk. Bleeding the clutch hydraulics WILL be a PITA but I had success with bleeding it from the bottom to the top using a huge syringe (used for horses and cattle) that I got from our vet. My build thread is one of many on here detailing the swap. Dan
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