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Old 09-12-2017, 07:31 PM
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PLace to buy interior trim, door panels, Sienna red for 300CD Coupe

Is there any place that sells these? It is a 1984 300CD coupe. The color is Sienna red. I need the interior door panels.

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Old 09-12-2017, 08:25 PM
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I think your best bet would be to try to find one that is being parted out or a member that has parts. You may also want to check the listings at ebay.de as they had a lot of coupes there.

Unfortunately, it is a rare color combination and there were not a lot of coupes with it.

There may be some of the managed types of junkyards that have them, but you will probably pay an arm and a leg and then some.

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Old 09-12-2017, 11:45 PM
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Is there any place that sells these? It is a 1984 300CD coupe. The color is Sienna red. I need the interior door panels.
I'd find one that fits the application and paint it using SEM paint and their process. It's scary but it's not impossible. If you don't want to paint hire someone or get a friend to do it.

Don't kill your pocketbook by paying the outrageous prices people want for hard to find parts. SEM matched the Alpaca Gray in my 85 w126 perfectly.
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Old 09-12-2017, 11:52 PM
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I wouldn't paint it. The paint will only go on the surface and will eventually flake off and look horrible.

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Old 09-12-2017, 11:55 PM
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I wouldn't paint it. The paint will only go on the surface and will eventually flake off and look horrible.

Dkr.
I have heard of no bad reports on SEM paint. I hope you're wrong, I've painted my entire interior with SEM paint, including the dash.
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Old 09-13-2017, 12:15 AM
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Leather penetrates beyond the surface and can be dyed/re-dyed.

MB-TEX/vinyl will only go on the surface. I'm not sure about different brands of paint, some may chemically adhere better than others, but the end result will be nothing like OEM.

Pieces that have pressure placed on them (i.e. seats) will crack faster, but once again it is not a great substitute for original color in terms of reliability/durability.

I did this once in black on another W123 and was very impressed at how great it looked until it started flaking.

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Old 09-13-2017, 04:59 PM
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From reading about the problems of repainting plastic interior pieces, I've come across one main factor in getting good results. The plastic must be clean of any kind of silicone preservative or dressing. I've seen many sites that stress this over again to prevent the flaking of the paint.
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Old 09-13-2017, 08:06 PM
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From reading about the problems of repainting plastic interior pieces, I've come across one main factor in getting good results. The plastic must be clean of any kind of silicone preservative or dressing. I've seen many sites that stress this over again to prevent the flaking of the paint.
I can't yet tell if the paint manufactures are blaming faulty paint jobs on the cleaning process or if folks are really ignoring instructions to get the parts clean. I know clean won't be an issue. I put everything through a three part cleaning process which exhausted me day after day for two weeks.

I'll let everyone here know how it turns out with photos when the interior is reinstalled. We'll see over the next few years if SEM products are as good as they claim.
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Old 09-13-2017, 11:35 PM
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There are two issues at hand here which I don't think are being distinguished.

If you take a piece of sandpaper to an OEM finish MB-TEX or plastic, you can flake layer upon layer off and you will have a scuffed up, scratched area of the same OEM color. That is because the color finish penetrates the entire piece instead of sitting on top of it.

If you take a piece of sandpaper to a painted interior piece, it will come off in one piece. That is because you are relying on chemical adhesion on the surface layer only.

The other issue ... SEM vs. other brands. I don't really know. I'm sure some brands do adhere better than others, but my point is that the difference between aftermarket painted brands and OEM is still night and day.

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Old 09-14-2017, 09:33 AM
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From this site, Sienna was only until 1982. After that it was called Henna (or Hennarot).

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Do a search on eBay and turn on notifications. Interior parts that color come up occasionally.
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I've never heard of painting vinyl upholstery. Sounds rather sketchy to me. Does anyone know of a place that is manufacturing these pieces for coupes? (interior door panels)
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The sem paint looks as good as new once done, the seat removed from the car will require a good scrubbing with a green scrubbey and dish soap followed by a spray off with lite water from a hose ,dry down with a clean towel . You then let the surface dry in the sun ,one tech told me another secret and will guarentee adhesion is a rub down of rubbing alcohol ,then dry ,then paint.The alcohol cleans and prepares the vinyl as the paint wants a good surface before the spray on .About 3 coats for each area ,I like to coat the seams ,the nooks,the crannies first ,then hit the headrest as those areas dry ,then come back for the flat surfaces ,if you keep up with the area youve hit already it becomes a steady process til completed .1 3/4 cans for each frt seat and 2 1/2 for the back seats.5 cans total at $17 each .I figure you can hit the heavily wearing surfaces about once a yr to freshen it up .Ive been painting the 300d seats for 5 yrs but these seats are old and they generally go south slowly but surely .Ive rethought how my next generation of seats are going to be my savior and picked out some bmw e46 sport seats to take their place.A MANUEL SEAT THAT iVE INSTALLED WORKS AND PERFORMS Well and AFTER PAINTING matches all interior colors. The sport seat which you can find at most auto recyclers are around $120. each ,if you find a pick and pull about $40 each.
Your door panels can be painted ,its the color match youll need to resource ,google sem paints and a chart should appear.If you want something as a resource for searching that interior and model car I suggest www.car-parts.com ,youll be hard to find but it should exist but will be some cost..
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Old 09-14-2017, 03:03 PM
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Old 09-15-2017, 08:34 AM
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I've never heard of painting vinyl upholstery. Sounds rather sketchy to me. Does anyone know of a place that is manufacturing these pieces for coupes? (interior door panels)
There is a certain difference between painting a vinyl door panel and a vinyl seat. I have leather seats and intend to dye the rear seat and replace the skins on the fronts. My brother painted a vinyl seat and it turned out well but he sold the car a few weeks later. Imo, maintaining the surface of a vinyl painted seat would be an ongoing process. So I agree with you on that.

I'd suggest you get in touch with GAHH for the panel if you're intent is to get one that is fresh. I believe you will find that you can buy the vinyl or panel with the original color but that matching a 33 year old vinyl color will be difficult to impossible due to fading.
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Old 09-15-2017, 12:12 PM
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There are two issues at hand here which I don't think are being distinguished.

If you take a piece of sandpaper to an OEM finish MB-TEX or plastic, you can flake layer upon layer off and you will have a scuffed up, scratched area of the same OEM color. That is because the color finish penetrates the entire piece instead of sitting on top of it.

If you take a piece of sandpaper to a painted interior piece, it will come off in one piece. That is because you are relying on chemical adhesion on the surface layer only.

The other issue ... SEM vs. other brands. I don't really know. I'm sure some brands do adhere better than others, but my point is that the difference between aftermarket painted brands and OEM is still night and day.

Dkr.

There's another issue or two here that hasn't been given proper attention. When something is 30+ years old the color is going to be faded. Maybe not in Leno's garage but if it's been driven it's going to have some fading. I appreciate that a used vinyl or plastic might match the original interior more than a new or refinished part.

Perhaps also, the refinishing of an interior is comparable to exterior refinishing. You can take a car to Macco and get a paint job or you can pay someone 10 times what Macco charges and get it done right. Either way it's going to be the quality of the craftsmanship, the process and the materials used which determine the final product.

I'm fully appreciating that no one can match the original paint on the interior or exterior of our 30+ year old cars. I have and had no intent to present such obvious ignorance. In the case of very few cars manufactured and very few finish schemes in that model I was just suggesting an alternative.

I apologize for giving such offense.

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