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97 SL320 · #31 09-24-2017, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Junkman

People frequently buy cars and drive them home without plates. That is likely any time there is purchase from an individual. I always fill the title in completely to get my name off it, remove my plates, write a receipt and keep a copy of both the title and receipt. The car is sold as is, where is and the new owner assumes all responsibility.

As far as the state is concerned, you still own the car and could be held liable for damages / tickets the car gets. Car hits a building , gets abandoned, you are still responsible. Leaving a title open is a huge risk.

To avoid this, go to an automotive notary, have them notarize your signature then provide you and the seller with a paper stating " Person A has sold car X to person B". This gives you proof that the car was sold. This kind of thing also works for in state sales when both parties can't be at the notary at the same time.

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Originally Posted by Junkman

A signed title and bill of sale should do the trick as far as dealing with police.

Not really, in my state failure to properly display a plate is an offense and not having a plate is an even higher cost offense.

While the actual fine for failure to properly display plate is low, by the time you add all the fees it is 4X. I bought a small flat trailer, got the title transferred and got a plate. I neglected to attach the plate to the trailer once I got back from the notary. Got stopped, said oops here is the plate, still got a ticket for over $ 100.

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The car needs to move under its own power.

Yes, this is because it will ride on many different trucks and they are usually not owned by the same company. Only the high end shippers do door to door on company owned trucks.

ROLLGUY · #32 09-24-2017, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigdaddybenz

I really adore the CDI that gregMN located but it's almost a six hour drive.... I'm still considering it, nevertheless but was hoping to find a CDI a bit closer to Atlanta..... Think I'll pass on the R-Class CDI..... I just prefer the sedan, it seems more classy..... I miss my CDI already!

Good thing you passed on the R. Before getting my CDI, I thought about the R class as well. I passed because they are 4Matic, and get poor fuel mileage for a Diesel. I also read some horror stories about them, and one becoming yard art because of the repairs being more than the car's worth.

kendogg · #33 09-24-2017, 10:37 PM

IDK, but buy it back from the insurance company. Time to yank the motor and build something lightweight and FAST

ROLLGUY · #34 09-24-2017, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by kendogg

IDK, but buy it back from the insurance company. Time to yank the motor and build something lightweight and FAST

X2! I like to make it a habit of buying back my wrecks (If that sounds like I make it a habit of wrecking cars, I don't

). I have always made money on selling the parts, or fixing the car for much less than estimated. Even if you don't repair it, as rare as a CDI is, having a parts car is worth every penny the insurance company will charge to buy it back.

97 SL320 · #35 09-25-2017, 05:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY

. ( R class diesel ) I also read some horror stories about them, and one becoming yard art because of the repairs being more than the car's worth.

In the past couple of years, 2 with bad motors have been on Craigslist. Both were snapped up with in a few days. One or two running cars have languished for a few years and remain unsold last I looked.

jay_bob · #36 09-25-2017, 07:29 AM

Yeah there's something about those R class. Probably the low point of the Chrysler infection into the Daimler engineering department.

If the OP or anyone else ends up settling on a 2007-2011 E, R, or ML, these are the OM642 with the leaking oil cooler seal/swirl flap motor/PCV leakage problem. Not the end of the world if you are able to pay attention to detail and have decent mechanical skills. It will cost less than $1000 and a long weekend to fix all these issues. I have done this to our 2008 ML and it now has about 145k on it and my kids are driving it up at Clemson. Hasn't leaked a drop in a year and was still totally full of oil when I just did the next oil change (10 k later) before the kids headed back to school. Before the repair I was having to top up the oil on a regular basis.

Just saying, don't be afraid of the 2007+ models just because they have the "evil OM642" engine. It's a great engine except for two crappy $5 seals included with the original engine.

The 2005-2006 E class are not perfect either with the SBC brakes and the OM648 Black Death.

ROLLGUY · #37 09-25-2017, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jay_bob

Yeah there's something about those R class. Probably the low point of the Chrysler infection into the Daimler engineering department.

If the OP or anyone else ends up settling on a 2007-2011 E, R, or ML, these are the OM642 with the leaking oil cooler seal/swirl flap motor/PCV leakage problem. Not the end of the world if you are able to pay attention to detail and have decent mechanical skills. It will cost less than $1000 and a long weekend to fix all these issues. I have done this to our 2008 ML and it now has about 145k on it and my kids are driving it up at Clemson. Hasn't leaked a drop in a year and was still totally full of oil when I just did the next oil change (10 k later) before the kids headed back to school. Before the repair I was having to top up the oil on a regular basis.

Just saying, don't be afraid of the 2007+ models just because they have the "evil OM642" engine. It's a great engine except for two crappy $5 seals included with the original engine.

The 2005-2006 E class are not perfect either with the SBC brakes and the OM648 Black Death.

Agreed on both counts. I have had the pleasure of replacing the seals on my friend's '07 E320, and have dealt with a pretty severe case of black death on my first CDI. I survived both, and am still somewhat sane. Actually, both jobs were kind of fun. As it turns out, I will be purchasing the aforementioned '07 E320 Bluetec with 80,000 original miles on it. Less than a month after doing the oil cooler job, the car was involved in a collision. I will be buying it for the salvage price and plan to repair it. I think I can fix it and get it back on the road for less than five grand including the salvage cost. That is not bad for a well equipped W211 with 80,000 miles on it, including the oil cooler seal replacement! ($3,000 job at the dealer).

MTUpower · #38 09-25-2017, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kendogg

IDK, but buy it back from the insurance company. Time to yank the motor and build something lightweight and FAST

How difficult would it be to put the om648 into a w211 wagon?

400Eric · #39 09-25-2017, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jay_bob

The 2005-2006 E class are not perfect either with the SBC brakes and the OM648 Black Death.

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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY

Agreed on both counts. I have had the pleasure of replacing the seals on my friend's '07 E320, and have dealt with a pretty severe case of black death on my first CDI. I survived both, and am still somewhat sane. Actually, both jobs were kind of fun.

Could you folks please elaborate on this "Black Death"? I'm assuming it has something to do with carbon from the EGR system clogging stuff up?

ROLLGUY · #40 09-25-2017, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 400Eric

Could you folks please elaborate on this "Black Death"? I'm assuming it has something to do with carbon from the EGR system clogging stuff up?

Search Black Death, and you will see my thread.

400Eric · #41 09-25-2017, 08:38 PM

The search feature on this site is so ineffective, I just looked at your posted threads list instead. I found several threads about issues with your 2 CDIs (including the "B.D." thread). Are you still of the opinion that these are good cars to own? They sure do seem to have a lot of stuff that can go wrong. Very complex, lots of stuff that will age and wear out eventually. Not to bad mouth them, I do want one, but I'm scared of them. My W124s are getting too old. I just don't know what to do.

ROLLGUY · #42 09-25-2017, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 400Eric

The search feature on this site is so ineffective, I just looked at your posted threads list instead. I found several threads about issues with your 2 CDIs (including the "B.D." thread). Are you still of the opinion that these are good cars to own? They sure do seem to have a lot of stuff that can go wrong. Very complex, lots of stuff that will age and wear out eventually. Not to bad mouth them, I do want one, but I'm scared of them. My W124s are getting too old. I just don't know what to do.

The only reason I got the one with BD, is because I got it cheap. I was confident that I could repair it, and still come out ahead (had about five grand in it after shipping and repairs). My niece has the car now, and loves it. I have not seen any other CDI's (5 that I have looked at) with BD. I had all five send photos of the top of the engine with the cover off. I also have not heard of many with SBC problems. The most natural progression from a 124 is a 210. They are wonderful cars as well. If you can afford to skip the 210 and go straight to the 211, you won't be sorry......Rich

diesellover 92 · #43 09-25-2017, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 97 SL320

As far as the state is concerned, you still own the car and could be held liable for damages / tickets the car gets. Car hits a building , gets abandoned, you are still responsible. Leaving a title open is a huge risk.

To avoid this, go to an automotive notary, have them notarize your signature then provide you and the seller with a paper stating " Person A has sold car X to person B". This gives you proof that the car was sold. This kind of thing also works for in state sales when both parties can't be at the notary at the same time.

Not really, in my state failure to properly display a plate is an offense and not having a plate is an even higher cost offense.

While the actual fine for failure to properly display plate is low, by the time you add all the fees it is 4X. I bought a small flat trailer, got the title transferred and got a plate. I neglected to attach the plate to the trailer once I got back from the notary. Got stopped, said oops here is the plate, still got a ticket for over $ 100.

Yes, this is because it will ride on many different trucks and they are usually not owned by the same company. Only the high end shippers do door to door on company owned trucks.

Depends on the state, michigan does not have notarys. No inspections or emissions. But ohio requires either the title transfer to be done at the DMV or be notorized.

400Eric · #44 09-25-2017, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ROLLGUY

The most natural progression from a 124 is a 210. They are wonderful cars as well. If you can afford to skip the 210 and go straight to the 211, you won't be sorry......Rich

That's what I plan to do, but I'm gonna buy myself a certain 5spd 300TD first.

Junkman · #45 09-26-2017, 01:11 PM

@SL 320:

TN only requires that the title be completed with the new owner. The seller would not leave plates on the car and the new owner would have to move the car. A trailer isn't required to move it. Insurance is required. Insurance is automatically extended to any new car if you currently have some in force. The period used to be 30 days but it has been shortened perhaps to 7 days.

You need not transfer the title to your name until you buy plates. This effectively means nothing needed for parts cars. You don't even get stuck paying sales tax when buying from an individual. (TN rules).

Sure, the state's data would not reflect the sale however the copy of the bill of sale (sold as is where is) and copy of the completed title with the new owner's name works to transfer ownership to the new person. "I sold" means that I no longer own a piece of property. One generally is not responsible for damage done by someone else's property even when it used to be yours.

Consider I used to own a pistol. I do not own it now. I haven't owned it for a while. The new owner was carrying it in his truck. The gun went off and someone got hit. What does that have to do with me? I was home sleeping. The transfer takes place at the time of sale. The copy of the bill of sale is proof of the sale. The fact that the state's database doesn't reflect the sale is immaterial. You can get sued and have to defend but anyone can sue for anything and you'll have to defend. A notary only attests that the person whose signature was witnessed showed ID documenting that they were who they say they are. There is no proof anywhere that the ID wasn't fake only that the notary believes that the person is who they say they are.