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S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-24-2017 10:14 PM

Serious Clunking from Front-End W126
 
Ive been driving my project to and from work but today when I was just about home I began to experience a major repetitive clunking when applying the brakes. It was severe enough I opted to use the parking brake until reaching my destination. Here are the facts:

  • This 1986 300sdl wasn't driven for a few years before being driven daily.
  • All brakes needed work. front calipers were rebuilt w/ new pads and the rear has yet to be serviced w/ new pads (arrived today in mail).
  • After priming this diesel, I opted to drive it to and from work as I reconditioned the interior to my standards. Since beginning to drive this mothership, the shocks have slowly worn down to what Id label as ****. New parts arrive in mail in a few days.
  • The clunking is very severe unlike any broken ball joints I have heard on my truck, etc. Location: Front Right
  • No clunking or braking discrepancies in reverse .
  • After finally stopping( very hard,sudden stop) via the clunking, when I begin on the accelerator pedal I reach around 2k RPM before a loud clunk, after this "release" I am completely mobile w/o any obvious problems such as shifting, etc.
After some research I have considered replacing the Guide-Rod assembly on both ends but am eager for more educated feedback. Physical inspection didn't show any immediate signs of damage or rotten bushings of immediate repair.

This is urgent because I use this car to get to my parent in which I provide care for, as well as needing the fuel saving goddess for a 5 hr road trip I have to make this weekend.

Best,
S-Klasse Cowboy

S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-24-2017 10:16 PM

PS This is my first Post!

I am expecting great things from this community in a mutual relationship to be

Rogviler 10-24-2017 10:49 PM

I would first check for a loose bolt on the front brakes. It's happened to the best of us, which is why I always use thread locker now. I've only had a bolt come loose and go pinking away under the car (amazingly I hiked back up the road and found it), but a buddy of mine had the whole caliper come off.

Another thing would be the guide rod mount, which is basically what braces the wheel while the brakes are being applied.

S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-24-2017 10:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogviler (Post 3758855)
Another thing would be the guide rod mount, which is basically what braces the wheel while the brakes are being applied.

If the guide rod mount was at fault, do you think my issue would be present any any given speed? I did notice some pitting in the rubber at the mount during visual inspection.
I didnt use threadlock on the caliper bolts but I know its necessary. Will check them with tools but they feel very secure.

tangofox007 10-24-2017 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by S-Klasse_Cowboy (Post 3758852)
The clunking is very severe unlike any broken ball joints I have heard on my truck, etc. Location: Front Right

I would not rule out a worn ball joint. You can confirm by placing a jack or jack stand under the lower control arm with the tire a couple inches off the ground. Place a long pry bar under the tire and lift. If there is play in the lower ball joint, you will feel and hear it.

cho 10-25-2017 03:25 AM

mount perhaps
 
how about a engine mount ... I had issue several yrs ago with
loosen side bolts on mounts,manifested as clunk in that area
when brakes applied or even in place (high rpm / low rpm).

these are easy to inspect,warm engine,lift the bonnet and dance
the pedal up and down so you can see movement of the whole engine
in my case jump was observed from left to right.

cheers
ChO

S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-26-2017 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogviler (Post 3758855)
I would first check for a loose bolt on the front brakes. It's happened to the best of us, which is why I always use thread locker now. I've only had a bolt come loose and go pinking away under the car (amazingly I hiked back up the road and found it), but a buddy of mine had the whole caliper come off.

Another thing would be the guide rod mount, which is basically what braces the wheel while the brakes are being applied.


Rogviler, you nailed it. I AM missing a caliper bolt but in either cause of effect, the guide rod mount is shot to ****. Repairs being made now.

Peace.

Junkman 10-26-2017 09:40 PM

You'll be happier after you do all of the rubber in the front end. It will drive like a Mercedes is intended.

S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-30-2017 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman (Post 3759502)
You'll be happier after you do all of the rubber in the front end. It will drive like a Mercedes is intended.

Commencing Front-End rebuild after I replace rear shocks!
Very very excited :D

tyl604 10-30-2017 08:34 PM

How about a couple of pictures?

Rogviler 10-30-2017 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyl604 (Post 3760645)
How about a couple of pictures?

Yes, be sure to get the vacant bolt hole from ALL angles so we can over-analyze it for nine pages. ;)

Glad you got it figured out and that it was something obvious. :2thumbsup

-Rog

S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-31-2017 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Junkman (Post 3759502)
You'll be happier after you do all of the rubber in the front end. It will drive like a Mercedes is intended.

This line makes me miss my w116.
Just putting it out there, her name was Citrus Clitoris.
RIP

S-Klasse_Cowboy 10-31-2017 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyl604 (Post 3760645)
How about a couple of pictures?

http://www.***************/secure/PartImages/1234210171.jpg

LOL
Just pullin' your pubes, partner. I will update some photos of my cavalry past and present on the forums sooner than later.

Junkman 10-31-2017 09:47 PM

Bilstein HD for shocks.

Clemson88 10-31-2017 10:29 PM

Well, that's what we do.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Rogviler (Post 3760666)
Yes, be sure to get the vacant bolt hole from ALL angles so we can over-analyze it for nine pages. ;)

Glad you got it figured out and that it was something obvious. :2thumbsup

-Rog

I kinda enjoy reading those volumes of analysis which are created while discussing a missing grommet or a loose screw.


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