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Old 11-21-2017, 09:49 AM
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I bought a Lexmark which was highly rated by all the big reviewers a few years ago.. the first time I replaced the toner cartridge I could not get the new chip to work

And I did replace the toner cartridge... which was painless....and they pay for the empty cartridge to be shipped back for recycling.
We had Lexmarks at work for several years. They were terrible. Jammed all the time, issues with the cartridges not working (OR NOT FITTING!!!!), and strange print quality issues that we never could work out.

They got replaced by a medium-duty HP in 2009 and we're still using it 300K pages later and no repairs. Unbelievable performance from a $500 "SOHO" style printer.

HP also does the paid return thing. They have a program you can join where you get discounts for returning used cartridges too. Saves about 10% off the cost of genuine supplies.

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Old 11-21-2017, 10:07 AM
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I have 2 laser printers, one is monochrome, the other is color. I never print anything in color, so the color one is packed away in a closet. The monochrome is a HP P1606dn, which was under $100. Has an automatic duplexer and a LAN port with optional WiFi. I have it next to the router, so I don't have to waste my time with flaky WiFi. I've had the printer for 4 years and still have never replaced the toner cartridge. Never dries out, never clogs, and if kept out of the sun or high heat, will last for years of intermittent use.
You say the monochrome HP P1606dn has optional wifi. How much would that option cost? Maybe cheaper to find a laserjet with built in wifi? It is nice to be able to print directly from my Android phone or Chromebook wirelessly via wifi. I think the Chromebook can print with a cable (Ethernet?) but that is impossible from the phone.
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Old 11-21-2017, 10:20 AM
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I've had two Canon inkjet printers, same basic model, over the last 18 years. Last one, Model MX473 is about 12 years old, still works perfectly either wifi or ethernet, admittedly with 'light' usuage. The first won was very heavily used at the time. Those inexpensive Canon's are always rated highly by Consumer Reports. If I were to replace tomorrow it would be a similar Canon. Under $100.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:53 PM
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Yep, agree with Bob. My two Canon wifi's have lasted for years with zero problem.
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Old 11-21-2017, 07:32 PM
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You say the monochrome HP P1606dn has optional wifi. How much would that option cost? Maybe cheaper to find a laserjet with built in wifi? It is nice to be able to print directly from my Android phone or Chromebook wirelessly via wifi. I think the Chromebook can print with a cable (Ethernet?) but that is impossible from the phone.
As long as the printer is connected to the same network via cable or WiFi, you should be able to print from your phone. Mine's connected via Ethernet and it works with my iPhone. If all else fails, you can always get a WiFi bridge such as a Netgear WNCE-2001 and turn ANY network-capable printer into a WiFi printer.
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I'm no fan of inkjets but the HP Officejet Pro 8700 series all in ones seem to be okay. My company has literally thousands of these out in offices all over the states. By far, the common complaints relate to consumables cost (cartridges/printheads) . The previous models such as the OJ7400, 8500 and 8600 series were about as reliable with the auto document feeders and duplex units causing problems as they aged. I have an 8710 in the garage that doesn't get used too much. It's never complained about dry or empty ink cartridges.

Frys.com often has the OJ Pro 8710 for well under $100 and free shipping if you get their daily email deals. Last week they had them for $78 as part of a one-day sale.

That being said, my personal printer and the one in my home office are HP Laserjet Pro M477fdw color laser all in ones. Initial cost is a little more than the inkjet counterparts but cost per page and quality are better.

The models I mentioned above have wi-fi, ethernet, USB, onboard duplexing, and automatic document feeders. The Laserjet also scans 2-sided documents from the ADF.
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:35 PM
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You fell for the sales-pitch hook, line, and sinker. Most of the "home" style laser printers you get nowadays are $100-150 when not on sale. When on sale (or Black Friday sale) you can get them under $100 easily.

Now let's talk about Toner/Ink. The average inkjet cartridge will do 200-250 pages before it runs out or dries up. Far less if the printer is used infrequently. The average laser cartridge will do 1500-2500 pages, never dries out, and doesn't age. The "starter" cartridge most lasers come with is good for 750-1000 pages, the inkjet around 100 pages.

Consider the average inkjet cartridge is $20-30 and the average laser cartridge is $75-100 (we're talking genuine OEM supplies here). Assuming you get rated pages out of your inkjet cartridges, you'll be at or beyond the cost of the bottom-end laser cartridge in cash outlay. Generics are even worse! The average generic laser cartridge is roughly twice the cost of a generic Inkjet cartridge, but does ~10 times the number of pages!

Then of course you come down to life expectancy of the printer itself. If you get 5 years out of an inkjet you did really well. The heads clog, the cleaning stations dry out or jam, the paper feeds wear out, and then they have a bad habit of just going "flaky" for no apparent reason. In a home setting, you should be able to get 10-20 years easily out of a laser printer. If you get one that recognizes PCL or PS as the printer language, you will never be obsolete either, PCL and PS printers can print from ANY computer with ANY operating system that speaks a dialect they understand. Standards are a wonderful thing.

When you factor in the waste, initial cost, and streaking/drying out issues that inkjets have, they're pointless in this day and age. People look ONLY at the cartridge cost or listen to the idiot at OfficeMax who doesn't even own a printer, but gets paid commission on whatever he sells.
Maybe so but when I was looking the laser printers were $400 and up if I recall. Anyway I have not done a lot of research on the subject, and although I print things on a regular basis I don't print a whole lot of pages. It's one of those things I just want to work without putting much thought into it, that's what I'm getting right now going on 3 years without issue. When it croaks I'll probably just run down and grab another and heave this one in the trash. It's the American way.
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Old 11-21-2017, 08:55 PM
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Did you know they use Diesel in the cartridges. Or maybe thats a different kind of thing.
Wow 37 replies.
No way anyone would get that many elsewhere.
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Old 11-21-2017, 09:07 PM
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This should not be in the Diesel Discussion forum.
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Fry's has a Canon MX922 all-in-one for $60. It is wifi, does everything and might fit your needs. Is a Black Friday price but looks like it is available today. We have a Fry's in Atlanta and there is one in Phoenix so they are in several different cities. You might take a look. Images.frys.com

Also have a Samsung Xpress M2020W black and white laser printer for $47. It is wifi.

Just looked again. Both are available on line and ship free.


How can they sell these things at these prices?

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Old 11-22-2017, 10:54 PM
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Printers are the devil.
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Old 11-23-2017, 06:56 AM
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This should not be in the Diesel Discussion forum.
I have said it before and I will say it again...


Our diesel discussion forum is a family.

The regular members of this family can post ANY non political/religious topic on here.

As long as the community is helpful with the topic and it doesn't cause member strife it is good on our family forum.
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Printers are the devil.
More true words have never been spoken... I used to run an IT business, printers are the worst things to deal with.
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Old 11-27-2017, 02:20 PM
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Thanks for all the replies. I don't think I am going to buy another printer for now. Getting less than 2 hundred pages from a brand new printer and then buying another one to replace it just seems wrong. I will buy new ink cartridges for it and see if it has more print capacity than the supposedly partially filled cartridges that came with the printer.

What is a good and reputable after market Canon ink cartridge to get for a Canon MB2720? Can I install just the black cartridge or do I have to install the other 3 color cartridges in order for the printer to work? I almost never have to print color so that would be a total waste of money. I know I need to get a b/w Laser printer but not just yet, I'd like to get more life out of this one..
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Old 11-27-2017, 04:13 PM
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vstech - I think what he is saying is that this thread belongs in another section of this forum, not the diesel section.

I am surprised the moderators did not just move it over. I got roasted years ago by asking how to locate my underground invisible fence when I posted the thread in the diesel section. At that point I did not realize there was a section for general and non-Mercedes related questions.

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