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CATMAN 01-07-2018 08:01 PM

300D Euro 5 Speed Transmissions
 
I've got a source in Europe working on grouping some parts for my diesel swap project. It started with looking for a 300D OM617 flywheel and its looking like I'll have access to a few of those, and so far 3 5sp manual transmissions.

Is there any interest in a group buy on this stuff? My base cost is just under $500 on whole transmissions as of right now.

Twintake 01-07-2018 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CATMAN (Post 3778614)
I've got a source in Europe working on grouping some parts for my diesel swap project. It started with looking for a 300D OM617 flywheel and its looking like I'll have access to a few of those, and so far 3 5sp manual transmissions.

Is there any interest in a group buy on this stuff? My base cost is just under $500 on whole transmissions as of right now.

Id hop on the boat at 500! She could use an extra gear

moon161 01-08-2018 12:35 PM

I'm interested.

Frank Reiner 01-08-2018 01:52 PM

CM:

Specifics that will be of interest are:

1) Manufacturer - MB or Getrag
2) Type/Model(s) - 716.xxx, 717.xxx
3) Engine applications
4) Availability of shift linkages and crossmembers
5) Availability of flywheels & clutches
6) Shipping and customs charges

resto108 01-08-2018 02:41 PM

Also, truck or car 617 flywheel.

strelnik 01-08-2018 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by CATMAN (Post 3778614)
I've got a source in Europe working on grouping some parts for my diesel swap project. It started with looking for a 300D OM617 flywheel and its looking like I'll have access to a few of those, and so far 3 5sp manual transmissions.

Is there any interest in a group buy on this stuff? My base cost is just under $500 on whole transmissions as of right now.


1. I am interested in getting a set-up for my latest project, a OM617.95X station wagon . This would entail: gearbox for five-cylinder, clutch, flywheel and pedal. Anything else I might need?


2. I would do the same to a semi-project car that's a beautiful 82 300SD with OM6217.952 Not buying anything unless really unusual, and selling a 190D and a couple of 240D MTs to thin the herd and finance the others. This will start in earnest in the spring or soon after.

PLEASE keep me in the loop here or by PM. Thanks.

I'm figuring a conversion with everything plus shipping will be in the 750-900 range.,

cho 01-09-2018 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by strelnik (Post 3778872)

I'm figuring a conversion with everything plus shipping will be in the 750-900 range.,


I have shipped 3 complete transmission .400 sets to States in last 3-4 years
shipment only (trustworthy and secure) can not be done under 650 USD as I remember... there are some cheaper shady (by boat or so...) options not involving delivery to specific address but I did not want tackle that one...

the best one I can find EU-USA was Fedex,...others i.e DHL had some insane quota....

cheers


ChO


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winmutt 01-09-2018 07:30 AM

It's a lot of money for a transmission that's not torque rated for a .95x

andrewjtx 01-09-2018 03:36 PM

I'd like to move to the 5spd club, but I'm wary of a new user with 5 posts to his name coming in trying to get money together. I respect your efforts, but for those reasons, I'm out.

vstech 01-10-2018 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CATMAN (Post 3778614)
I've got a source in Europe working on grouping some parts for my diesel swap project. It started with looking for a 300D OM617 flywheel and its looking like I'll have access to a few of those, and so far 3 5sp manual transmissions.

Is there any interest in a group buy on this stuff? My base cost is just under $500 on whole transmissions as of right now.

If you can get them together and sell for under 1200USD$ shipped I think a few would sell here...

CATMAN 01-29-2018 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by andrewjtx (Post 3779159)
I'd like to move to the 5spd club, but I'm wary of a new user with 5 posts to his name coming in trying to get money together. I respect your efforts, but for those reasons, I'm out.

I do enjoy making a few bucks on occasion simply by sourcing the un-sourcable. I read post after post about these gearboxes being unobtanioum or outrageously valued on the US market.

This fizzled out on my end because I didn't have time to stay on the suppliers ass. Junk yards are sometimes hard enough to deal with when they're local, even harder when in England.

Here is the contact info of the yard in England who's got some 5spd's and claims to be able to source more. Maybe an established member can take the wheel on this one. I spend a bit of time trying to find a wrecking yard in Europe who'd bother with exporting used transmissions. Out of more than a dozen sources I solicited either directly or through salvage parts sites these guys were the only ones responsive and willing.

My advise, don't bother emailing until its time to finalize on the deal. Get them on the phone to keep a dialogue moving. Email will fizzle out, like it did with me. Their website is completely worthless as well.


DRONSFIELDS IND MERC
Phone: 0333 313 0573
Email: ian.dronsfield@dronsfields.co.uk

DeliveryValve 01-30-2018 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by CATMAN (Post 3784479)
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Here is the contact info of the yard in England who's got some 5spd's and claims to be able to source more. Maybe an established member can take the wheel on this one. I spend a bit of time trying to find a wrecking yard in Europe who'd bother with exporting used transmissions. Out of more than a dozen sources I solicited either directly or through salvage parts sites these guys were the only ones responsive and willing.....
DRONSFIELDS IND MERC
Phone: 0333 313 0573
Email: ian.dronsfield@dronsfields.co.uk

I'd be skeptical about them easily being able to source more 717.400's. These are even getting rare in Europe.


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Paul Robinson 01-31-2018 08:21 AM

Can the 5-speed “Big Iron” transmissions be adapted to the W123? There seem to be more of them available, plus they are more robust than the 5-speed Getrags.

http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-5-Gang-Schaltgetriebe-1172611001-8-W114-W115-Strich-Achter-/202112534291

moon161 01-31-2018 11:08 AM

For that kind of money you can find a good 60X motor and 5 speed and spend on putting it in.

NZScott 01-31-2018 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Robinson (Post 3784754)
Can the 5-speed “Big Iron” transmissions be adapted to the W123? There seem to be more of them available, plus they are more robust than the 5-speed Getrags.

http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200...2F202112534291http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-5-Gang-Schaltgetriebe-1172611001-8-W114-W115-Strich-Achter-/202112534291

The 717.000 will bolt right on to my knowledge, yes. I would have to wonder about being more common though - 5 speeds weren't as common - some cars still had 2 or 3 speeds when those came out. But yes, they would be stronger than the Getrags I'm sure

Frank Reiner 01-31-2018 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Robinson (Post 3784754)
Can the 5-speed “Big Iron” transmissions be adapted to the W123? There seem to be more of them available, plus they are more robust than the 5-speed Getrags.

http://rover.ebay.com/ar/1/711-53200...2F202112534291http://www.ebay.de/itm/Mercedes-Benz-5-Gang-Schaltgetriebe-1172611001-8-W114-W115-Strich-Achter-/202112534291

How does one unused museum piece bring about "more of them available"?

Such a claim requires substantiation in the form of multiple "for sale" offers of that model transmission.

Murkybenz 01-31-2018 05:47 PM

http://stores.ebay.co.uk/Dronsfields-Independent-Mercedes

Mercedes-Benz Parts - Dronsfields, a Mercedes Breaker UK

CATMAN 02-01-2018 12:24 AM

Dronsfield's didn't have the transmissions on the ground in their shop. But they had a means to get them.

The salvage yard business is quite different than many other industries. You can't call Amazon up for something out of stock and say, I want "x" you don't show it, now find me 10 of "x" and call me back when you're ready to get paid. Salvage yards in the USA do exactly that, they all communicate with one another and will source for you what they don't have. Sure they take a small cut, but they will do the leg work.

Those guys seem like a good source if you all want to coordinate a group buy of unobtanium that is available in Europe. It's too hard and costly to gather a crate filled with maybe 100+ parts and ship them all DHL/UPS piece by piece. Go through 1 source, have them gather and prepare a bulk export shipment in a wooden crate, and pay 1 bill to 1 yard.

If I were ya'll I'd find a "group leader" or two and compile a list. Have just one leader be point of contact to the European supplier and see what you can do. If everyone all of a sudden bombards European wrecking yards with small order requests they will quickly just start saying no if they feel bothered. Single piece small orders are an eBay sort of thing. Overseas vendors will do some leg work if 1 person spearheads and effort to get an entire crate of goodies exported to the US.

Also the yards will mark up freight 50-100% if you ask them to handle that. If no one here is a freight broker who deals in ocean freight I can reference a contact that does small volume container work usually through Maersk.


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