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Old 01-19-2018, 10:26 AM
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Cheap wagon club?

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I think I might have joined the cheap wagon club.

I picked up an 82 wagon that I didn't intend to buy as the engine ran so poorly, and I couldn't discern what the problem/problems were. The seller was over his head, and just wanted to get rid of it. He managed to drive it around the block and onto the trailer. I didn't have much hope for how the engine ran, but hey, it at least was a nice source of parts.

I have had this thing for at least 9 months, and done nothing until yesterday, when a bit of spare time and curiosity got the best of me. Jan had left his injector tester here, so I pulled the injectors to pop test them and take a look at the prechambers.

I found one injector that would not open at 2500 psi. One opened at around 1600, two opened near spec pressure, and the last one pissed diesel out with out even registering on the pressure gauge. Only one of the two near spec had a decent fine spray.

I'm pretty impressed that the engine had enough umph to even drive on the trailer!

I gathered up the loose injectors that I had around and pop tested the rest, and pulled the 5 best out of the bunch and put them back in the car for a test. Best is a relative term here, as the pop pressures ranged from 1600, to near 2100. Still the engine started easily and the amount of smoke out the exhaust was greatly diminished. The engine does rattle a little, but I can also see a stream of small air bubbles going through the pre filter. There may be hope for this engine yet!

I need to rebuild a set of injectors for it and start on the normal procedures of fluid changes, valve adjustments, etc., and figure out just where I am on this engine. The car only has 180K miles on it, so unless it has been neglected should have lots of life left in the engine. We'll see.

W.
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Old 01-19-2018, 04:09 PM
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Sounds a bit like my 1984. As-found, 3 of the 5 injectors popped at 1600 psig and were labeled such. Someone had installed replacements for a non-turbo engine. Interestingly, after replacing w/ the correct 1950 psig injectors (and pop-testing all), the engine ran about the same as before. Your stuck injector may have rusted-up inside the nozzle, but replacement nozzles are only ~$30, and the housing may still be good. If you have the original white plastic hand pump, replace it since they notoriously allow air to be sucked in, and replacements w/ better design, are <$10.
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Old 01-19-2018, 09:40 PM
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Thumbs up Another Cheap W123 Wagon !

WELCOME Walter ! .

I love my cheap (to buy) 300TD grey market wagon .

So far everyone else does to as every where it goes folks ask about it and will I sell it .

Do all the normal deferred mtce. stuff on it,valve adjust, replace the hoses and filters, do a diesel purge then report back .
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Old 01-19-2018, 10:21 PM
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How about some pictures too.
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Old 01-20-2018, 12:47 PM
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Thanks guys!

I would add an image, but it appears that the images needs to be hosted somewhere else, and I don't have any place to place images.

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Old 01-20-2018, 01:04 PM
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Thanks guys!

I would add an image, but it appears that the images needs to be hosted somewhere else, and I don't have any place to place images.

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Try texting the picture to your phone before you try to u0load it.

This site can't handle large images...
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Try texting the picture to your phone before you try to u0load it.

This site can't handle large images...
Is that a method of reducing the pixel count ?
Once he has done that.. how does it get to the thread ?
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When on your computer, if you click on the Go Advanced button in the Reply window you can then click on the the Manage Attachments button and upload files directly from your computer with the Choose File button.

With this method you don't need to resize the image, the website does it for you.
Bonus is that you can right click on the image to open it in a new tab and view the image full size....and you can grab that url of the image from the newly open tab and insert it in the body of your text (even before you post).
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Old 01-20-2018, 01:41 PM
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Thanks for the help.

I did finally find the attachments menu, but apparently the file is too large and I get an error. I am not aware of what if any software is on my computer to resize the image.

I don't have a smart phone, so that option is out.

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Old 01-20-2018, 01:45 PM
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Thanks for the help.

I did finally find the attachments menu, but apparently the file is too large and I get an error. I am not aware of what if any software is on my computer to resize the image.

I don't have a smart phone, so that option is out.

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Walter I sent you a PM ....
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Old 02-02-2018, 05:38 PM
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Image

I had the wagon buried, but pulled it out to work on it. Here is an image of the needs to be washed wagon!

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Old 02-03-2018, 09:23 PM
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Thumbs up Walter's Wagon

It looks nice to me ! .
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Old 02-05-2018, 09:04 AM
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As above, looks like a really nice score!
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Old 02-05-2018, 10:54 AM
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Looks like my 83.

Very cool.
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"as I ride with my a/c on... I have fond memories of sweaty oily saturdays and spewing R12 into the air. THANKS for all you do!

My drivers:
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5Turbo
1987 190D 2.5-5SPEED!!!

1987 300TD
1987 300TD
1994GMC 2500 6.5Turbo truck... I had to put the ladder somewhere!
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