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I have an '04 BMW that when I bought it, was disgusted to find that it couldn't get to the end of my perfectly flat neighborhood street in only 2" of snow. Lots of spinning and sliding, but literally could not reach the end of my flat neighborhood street. Embarrassingly bad in the snow. The following winter, I put a set of Michelin X-ice3 tires on the BMW, and holy moly what a difference it made! The car is now a beast in the snow. I'm not telling fish stories when I say I've driven it from Washington DC to the top of Wintergreen mountain during a snow storm. I saw dozens of cars off the road in the ditch, but the BMW performed brilliantly on the unplowed winding country roads and climbed the steep mountain with ease. This is a front engine RWD car with open diff. I'm now a believer in owning two sets of wheels/tires. One high performance summer set, and one winter ice & snow set.
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X2 on dedicated snows on the W210. Absolute must. Good all season tires won't cut it.
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It's interesting that nobody has mentioned the summer winter switch right next to the shifter. I use my E300 all year round and have driven in one to three inches of snow twice this year without issue. I do have new as of November all season tires and a hundred pounds of sand in the trunk along with my work supplies. The car drove great except for an occasional fishtail while accelerating from a stop into a turn. 6 inches of snow No Way, I'd wait until they plowed and then go.
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The 300SDL is HORRIBLE in the snow.
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When I was a kid all the cars had RWD and bias tires. Back then it was not uncommon to use tire chains. I used to carry two sets...a regular set of chains, which had to be dressed around the entire wheel (PITA), and a set of emergency strap chains that tied through the vents in the wheels. If you can get a set of vintage radial chains or a Spikes-Spider, RWD will get you through deep snow. And if you have a taste for adventure, doing donuts is fun. You would think that "modern tires" or radial snows would fix everything, but no. Skinny bias ply tires actually gave significantly better starting traction than fat radials.
But let's get real. Like you, I live at the end of the track, in a semi rural area. In NY, we get less snow than Michigan, but it's not by much. When it's bad I drive a Subaru with snow tires at every corner. Foul weather doesn't respect high style. |
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My Subaru, w/ OKish all seasons(not even GOOD all seasons), did great in the 6" of snow we got last year, and the ice which followed. Zero issues at all. Have cable chains for it but if it but never needed to even consider them. If it's that bad I'd really prefer being in my truck. Have chains for that too, but if it needs chains we're talking multiple feet of snow and I'd rather just stay home.
I hesitate to comment on what may be a sensitive subject, but if you're spinning tires and sliding past stop signs in a FWD car with genuine snow tires, even on ice, I would suggest that the equipment isn't the issue here.
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6" of snow. What an ordeal!!!
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Weren’t they made in your neck of the woods? RWD can be made to perform decently in snow but why bother when AWD is so common? Sixto 98 E320s sedan and wagon |
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The cords were built in the twenties and thirties. I was born in 48. None were on the roads until the rabbit IIRC. ....well, the first that got attention was the toro in 66.
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Oh I know 6" of snow is nothing. I had a girlfriend from Michigan who thought it was hilarious when school was cancelled for 2" of snow.
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99E300s with OEM tires are horrible in the snow. Rear snow tires would help, somewhat. It was a royal challenge getting out of my parents' posh neighborhood in Omaha a few years ago in 6" to 9" of fresh snow. The traction control helped.
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I used it just 10 days ago in Tennessee in my 06E320, CDI. C/S. The 06 E320 CDI, does horribly in the snow too. Mercedes' infinite wisdom has the right rear wheel as the drive wheel, instead of equipping their RWD, cars with posi-traction. Nuts. All my Corvettes have had posi-traction, and have no trouble in the snow, as long as you're not snow plowing over the body clearance. My new 77 C3, was awesome in the snow. |
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Newer cars have wide tires and not much weight. The wider tires want to ride up over snow and lose traction. Its a problem with pretty much all cars now.
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