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Old 01-29-2018, 11:05 AM
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I had a '99 Turbodiesel too and I put Hakka snows on it all the time. the confidence of the stability they provide can't be replaced.

You should check in with Hogweed because he is selling snow tires for a W210 right now. I know this because I sold them to him last year but I don't think he ever used them. They are almost brand new.

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Old 01-29-2018, 11:27 AM
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I had a '99 Turbodiesel too and I put Hakka snows on it all the time. the confidence of the stability they provide can't be replaced.

You should check in with Hogweed because he is selling snow tires for a W210 right now. I know this because I sold them to him last year but I don't think he ever used them. They are almost brand new.
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Snow tires make any car a winter car. I had an old Honda with old Blizzaks that plowed through better than the spun out Suburbans I would always see in the snow belt.

I just stopped worrying about crappy all season tires in the snow and bit the bullet. I think it's silly that people assume all season tires are effective in a few inches of snow. They're great when the snow is plowed, but who here actually sees snow removal teams regularly when it matters? The snow will always be unplowed when you need to get somewhere, always.

Pop them on during Thanksgiving and take them off mid march.
I'll never drive a car in the snow without them again.
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:46 AM
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The streets here get plowed regularly. If I need to get out in deep snow I can use my Montero. I have not bought snows in a couple of decades. ... Once I believe. The 99 Durango which the Mrs spun out on the interstate, ran across the ditch and mowed down a wire fence.
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I have a set of Michelin Arctic Alpin's for the winter on my 99' E300. There is no way I could get through the snow in IL/WI without them. I just drove on my frozen lake in northern wisconsin without much trouble. I would say a front wheel drive with snow tires is better though.
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snowtires, snowtires, and again snowtires!


Blizzaks on all 4 corners of our 98 E300TD and its a fine car for the winter. Without snow tires, it sucks for sure, but then the same is true for FWD cars in my experience. I'd also go as far as to say that RWD with snowtires is better than AWD with all seasons...tires make that much of a difference to me. AWD will help in the real deep stuff and if you're stuck.


Put the transmission in "W", and be prepared to toggle off the traction control as needed to get rolling in especially slick conditions, then reengage the traction control once rolling. The electronic stability program will not let the car fishtail.
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Those W210's are terrible in the snow. I had a 96 e300 and a 99 e300 turbo sedans and both were bad in snow even with sand bags in the trunk.
The rear ends would lose traction with a tap of the accelerator and forget about going up a snowy or icy incline.
I think the rear ends are just to light in weight.


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Old 01-29-2018, 04:17 PM
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Yeah. Add sandbags til you achieve reasonable traction.
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Those W210's are terrible in the snow. I had a 96 e300 and a 99 e300 turbo sedans and both were bad in snow even with sand bags in the trunk.
The rear ends would lose traction with a tap of the accelerator and forget about going up a snowy or icy incline.
I think the rear ends are just to light in weight.


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Yeah but did you have snow tires?
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Old 01-29-2018, 11:16 PM
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Another vote for dedicated snow tires here. I owned a 1994 E420 with ASR for 6 years and I put a set of Hakka RSi snow tires on it in the winter. It was awesome! Drive that 300 in the snow. It might rust fast (I keep my 97 E300D out if the salt), but you shouldn't get stuck.
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my '98 is the white 210 in this video. doing pretty well in the snow
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Old 02-10-2018, 09:24 AM
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my '98 is the white 210 in this video. doing pretty well in the snow
That is AWESOME!!!

What track is that? How much did a snowy track day cost? I'd LOVE to do that!
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That is AWESOME!!!

What track is that? How much did a snowy track day cost? I'd LOVE to do that!
Monticello Motor Club in the Catskills of NY. Private event open to MMC members and guests only. I happen to be one of the lucky SOBs who is a member there. They try to do one or two winter track days during the off season when conditions permit. I'm not aware of any other traditional race track facilities that do something like this.

For those who say these cars suck in the snow, I thought the video is appropriate demonstration of what they are capable of with snow tires.
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Another point about "snow" tires. They are more accurately called "winter" tires because their advantage in cold weather goes beyond snow. Unlike all-season tires, the rubber compound they are made of, is optimized for below-freezing temperatures. This means that even on clear dry pavement, winter tires will provide more grip than an all season tire. Anyone who has driven on a race track knows that summer performance tires grip SO much better than an all-season. Using winter tires in winter is the same thing, so much better grip as compared with all-seasons, even on dry pavement.

So even if you don't get much snow where you live, or the roads are well plowed, you should still consider a set of "snow" tires for their performance advantage in low temperatures.

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