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rreeuuvveenn 02-03-2018 08:50 PM

is my SDL low on pollution ?
 
Dear all,

In the morning before driving, the radiator hose is hard,

pressure in the overflow coolant tank,

Testing for exhaust gas in the coolant tank,

car is very hot on top of the hill,

not loosing coolant,

oil one quart very 1500 mils,

rough idling for three minutes ,on cold start,

than drives like a running elephant ,

When testing with the diesel test for ten minutes in the coolant tank ,

it stays red!!!????( if detects exhaust gas, turn yellow),

I try and test at the muffler pipe, Takes long to turn a bit yellow,

Anybody with experience or explanation?

thanks in advance

ykobayashi 02-03-2018 09:04 PM

I can hazard a guess.

Are those kits made for gas cars?

Maybe they’re looking for CO or some combustion product that you don’t find in diesel exhaust.

Just a guess.

Try holding the solution in front of a gas car’s pipe. Maybe that won’t work either post cat? I guess it would be best to call the manufacturer and see what they’re looking for.

rreeuuvveenn 02-03-2018 09:39 PM

the bottle says it is for diesel,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ykobayashi (Post 3785682)
I can hazard a guess.

Are those kits made for gas cars?

Maybe they’re looking for CO or some combustion product that you don’t find in diesel exhaust.

Just a guess.

Try holding the solution in front of a gas car’s pipe. Maybe that won’t work either post cat? I guess it would be best to call the manufacturer and see what they’re looking for.

Did clean out the cat, it is empty, (did restrict my engine)

it changes color to half yellow, at the tail pipe,

My guess is that in the coolant, the amount is so small.

Diseasel300 02-03-2018 10:15 PM

No idea what you're asking for. Low on pollution? For 1986, probably. For today? Doubtful.

What should be more of a concern to you is the pressure in the cooling system when the engine is cold. On an OM603, that's a BAD sign. If you're lucky, it's a blown head gasket. If you're unlucky, it could be a cracked head.

rreeuuvveenn 02-03-2018 10:29 PM

You are right, the cylinder head is my concern,
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Diseasel300 (Post 3785693)
No idea what you're asking for. Low on pollution? For 1986, probably. For today? Doubtful.

What should be more of a concern to you is the pressure in the cooling system when the engine is cold. On an OM603, that's a BAD sign. If you're lucky, it's a blown head gasket. If you're unlucky, it could be a cracked head.

Trying to sniff the combustion gas in the coolant tank,

to verify leak in the cylinder head,

before I take the head off,

thanks for your kind replay,

sixto 02-03-2018 10:34 PM

A quart of oil in 1500 miles is probably a head gasket breach into #1. Cooling system pressure, gauge going straight to red, still running strong... well... for my #14 head it was terminal cracks.

Sixto
98 E320s sedan and wagon

rreeuuvveenn 02-03-2018 10:39 PM

Not loosing coolant, not heating up,
 
most of the loosing oil is from the turbo area,

should I spend the money?and time,

Or find a newer car,

dude99 02-04-2018 12:32 AM

So you didn't really answer the first question, does your tester specifically say that it works with Diesel engines on it? You need a kit that does.

rreeuuvveenn 02-04-2018 12:42 AM

The test kit is for Diesel engines
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dude99 (Post 3785725)
So you didn't really answer the first question, does your tester specifically say that it works with Diesel engines on it? You need a kit that does.


Lisle 75630 Special Indicator Fluid for the Lisle Combustion Leak Detector,

saw on youtube how it changes color from red to yellow in seconds,

rreeuuvveenn 02-04-2018 12:48 AM

I am looking for some strong indication, to open the cylinder head,

the pressure in the cooling system was for years,

I thought it is a good sign, that the hoses and the cooling system is good shape,

only lately I read that it could be an indication for hopeful a head gasket,

koooop 02-04-2018 12:49 AM

Gross polluter?

sixto 02-04-2018 02:28 AM

Pressure in the cooling system while running or shortly after isn’t a problem. Residual pressure overnight in a stone cold engine is a problem. My SDL had the latter.

Figure on $2500 to buy and install a good used head yourself. A new base cylinder head casting is about $2500. Dump the car instead of paying a shop to do it unless it’s in showroom condition.

But your cylinder head might be fine.

Sixto
98 E320s sedan and wagon

97 SL320 02-04-2018 09:35 AM

The only reliable way to test for combustion chamber to coolant leaks is to do a cylinder leak down test. This is where you remove a injector or glow plug, install an air hose, turn the engine to piston at top , both valves closed then apply about 100 PSI air. Keep the radiator cap off and look for coolant rising or bubbles.

The chemical test you are doing is for a quick test only, doing a leak down on every cylinder is the only definitive test.

rreeuuvveenn 02-04-2018 10:52 AM

will try the leak down test, thanks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320 (Post 3785754)
The only reliable way to test for combustion chamber to coolant leaks is to do a cylinder leak down test. This is where you remove a injector or glow plug, install an air hose, turn the engine to piston at top , both valves closed then apply about 100 PSI air. Keep the radiator cap off and look for coolant rising or bubbles.

The chemical test you are doing is for a quick test only, doing a leak down on every cylinder is the only definitive test.

will try the leak down test, thanks

ah-kay 02-04-2018 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 97 SL320 (Post 3785754)
The only reliable way to test for combustion chamber to coolant leaks is to do a cylinder leak down test. This is where you remove a injector or glow plug, install an air hose, turn the engine to piston at top , both valves closed then apply about 100 PSI air. Keep the radiator cap off and look for coolant rising or bubbles.

The chemical test you are doing is for a quick test only, doing a leak down on every cylinder is the only definitive test.

Leak down test is not to check cooling system integrity if I understand correctly. It is to check the rings and cylinder wall. Also it is only 20psi. Am I missing something? No way you will see air bubbles at 100psi, even much more.


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