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Old 02-16-2018, 09:49 AM
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Can't find a CNC shop to rebuild my head?

I've called multiple cnc shops, they refuse to work with diesel heads. Am I forced to pretty much ship this thing out of state?

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Old 02-16-2018, 10:00 AM
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A few things to think about. I had a local shop do one of mine. Did a great job. HOWEVER, by the time you buy parts and then pay for the service, you might as well bite the bullet and contact Mike at MetricMotors in California. Overall, I don't think you really save a bunch locally and you will have a lot of piece of mind going with MM.
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:09 AM
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A few things to think about. I had a local shop do one of mine. Did a great job. HOWEVER, by the time you buy parts and then pay for the service, you might as well bite the bullet and contact Mike at MetricMotors in California. Overall, I don't think you really save a bunch locally and you will have a lot of piece of mind going with MM.
Could you tell me more about Mike please? He specializes in Mercedes diesel heads?
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:10 AM
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:22 AM
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As a former CNC machinist, I understand some places not wanting to mess with such things. It's frustrating, I know, but the skills and knowledge you ask for in rebuilding your head is one that's only becoming more rare and I certainly wouldn't blame a shop for counting the liability higher than the potential profit. Besides, by sending it to an outfit with a reputation in *these* heads you know it'll be done right.
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Old 02-16-2018, 10:52 AM
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I've let local shops do things and will always send an unusual head to a specialist. Take the advice above. The possible few penn,isn't worth the risk. Some things cost more and are worth it.
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:04 AM
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Thanks everyone. Before I prolong this thread, parts + labor + shipping will cost north of $1,500 correct?
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:06 AM
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Not even close. not over $1,000
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:21 AM
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Not even close. not over $1,000
Oh ok, I was just expecting the worse.
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:35 AM
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I'm pretty sure Max is selling a complete #22 head for $800 in great shape. Why waste time on yours.
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Old 02-16-2018, 11:57 AM
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Edwards Automotive in Timonium, MD is an old-school engine machine shop.

They hot tanked, checked for cracks, replaced valve guides & seals, reground/seated the valves, and painted my 617's head for around $400. I dropped it off somewhat clean and fully dissembled.
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Same issue here no one competent or willing to work on IDI heads. What no. head do you have?
Why do you consider CNC necessary?
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:04 PM
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Could you tell me more about Mike please? He specializes in Mercedes diesel heads?
No better place for truly excellent work by machinists with extensive MBZ knowledge & experience. Period.

When the official Mercedes Classic Center does a full restoration, guess where they send the engines for rebuilding? (Hint: it's not Germany.) It's not something that MBZ wants the public to know about, and Mike doesn't tell people about that. (in order to keep a mutually beneficial relationship intact.)
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:20 PM
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Is there something I'm not seeing here? A 60x head is no more complex than any other head. I had mine done by a local machine shop, Westchester Auto Machine, and the only thing special I had to do was lend them a spline socket to remove the prechambers. Hot tank, surfacing, new valves, seats, guides and stem seals. $600 and done. Maybe you'd need a specialist if you were doing a short block, but for the head? It's a flat, SOHC, two valve head. Tell me what's tricky.
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Old 02-16-2018, 02:38 PM
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The tricky part is the pre-chambers and proper pressure testing requires a Mercedes-Benz plate that is bolted to the face of the head so the coolant passages can be pressurized while the head is submerged in a tank of 80 deg C water. Parts are also not easy, I had to find and supply all the parts (valve guides and valve guide seals) for a head that I had done locally.

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