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Father Of Giants 02-16-2018 09:49 AM

Can't find a CNC shop to rebuild my head?
 
I've called multiple cnc shops, they refuse to work with diesel heads. Am I forced to pretty much ship this thing out of state?

greazzer 02-16-2018 10:00 AM

A few things to think about. I had a local shop do one of mine. Did a great job. HOWEVER, by the time you buy parts and then pay for the service, you might as well bite the bullet and contact Mike at MetricMotors in California. Overall, I don't think you really save a bunch locally and you will have a lot of piece of mind going with MM.

Father Of Giants 02-16-2018 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by greazzer (Post 3788924)
A few things to think about. I had a local shop do one of mine. Did a great job. HOWEVER, by the time you buy parts and then pay for the service, you might as well bite the bullet and contact Mike at MetricMotors in California. Overall, I don't think you really save a bunch locally and you will have a lot of piece of mind going with MM.

Could you tell me more about Mike please? He specializes in Mercedes diesel heads?

greazzer 02-16-2018 10:10 AM

Go to Metric Motors web site Metric Motors, Inc.

CDTurbo001 02-16-2018 10:22 AM

As a former CNC machinist, I understand some places not wanting to mess with such things. It's frustrating, I know, but the skills and knowledge you ask for in rebuilding your head is one that's only becoming more rare and I certainly wouldn't blame a shop for counting the liability higher than the potential profit. Besides, by sending it to an outfit with a reputation in *these* heads you know it'll be done right.

Junkman 02-16-2018 10:52 AM

I've let local shops do things and will always send an unusual head to a specialist. Take the advice above. The possible few penn,isn't worth the risk. Some things cost more and are worth it.

Father Of Giants 02-16-2018 11:04 AM

Thanks everyone. Before I prolong this thread, parts + labor + shipping will cost north of $1,500 correct?

greazzer 02-16-2018 11:06 AM

Not even close. not over $1,000

Father Of Giants 02-16-2018 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by greazzer (Post 3788949)
Not even close. not over $1,000

Oh ok, I was just expecting the worse.

jake12tech 02-16-2018 11:35 AM

I'm pretty sure Max is selling a complete #22 head for $800 in great shape. Why waste time on yours.

Simpler=Better 02-16-2018 11:57 AM

Edwards Automotive in Timonium, MD is an old-school engine machine shop.

They hot tanked, checked for cracks, replaced valve guides & seals, reground/seated the valves, and painted my 617's head for around $400. I dropped it off somewhat clean and fully dissembled.

dieselbenz1 02-16-2018 12:16 PM

Same issue here no one competent or willing to work on IDI heads. What no. head do you have?
Why do you consider CNC necessary?

RunningTooHot 02-16-2018 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by greazzer (Post 3788928)
Go to Metric Motors web site Metric Motors, Inc.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Father Of Giants (Post 3788927)
Could you tell me more about Mike please? He specializes in Mercedes diesel heads?

No better place for truly excellent work by machinists with extensive MBZ knowledge & experience. Period.

When the official Mercedes Classic Center does a full restoration, guess where they send the engines for rebuilding? (Hint: it's not Germany.) It's not something that MBZ wants the public to know about, and Mike doesn't tell people about that. (in order to keep a mutually beneficial relationship intact.)

Mxfrank 02-16-2018 02:20 PM

Is there something I'm not seeing here? A 60x head is no more complex than any other head. I had mine done by a local machine shop, Westchester Auto Machine, and the only thing special I had to do was lend them a spline socket to remove the prechambers. Hot tank, surfacing, new valves, seats, guides and stem seals. $600 and done. Maybe you'd need a specialist if you were doing a short block, but for the head? It's a flat, SOHC, two valve head. Tell me what's tricky.

Maxbumpo 02-16-2018 02:38 PM

The tricky part is the pre-chambers and proper pressure testing requires a Mercedes-Benz plate that is bolted to the face of the head so the coolant passages can be pressurized while the head is submerged in a tank of 80 deg C water. Parts are also not easy, I had to find and supply all the parts (valve guides and valve guide seals) for a head that I had done locally.


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