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Old 03-25-2018, 10:32 AM
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Tips on 300SDL alternator replacement?

I've searched all over and can't find a write up for it. What are some things I should keep in mind when doing this job?

It seems like it's difficult to get out and back in am I right.
I don't want to screw this up.

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Old 03-25-2018, 10:42 AM
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??? Disconnecting the battery might be the most difficult part. Seriously, the belt has to come off which is never fun in a 603. From there it’s a couple of bolts and some wires for the alternator to come off. If it doesn’t drop to the ground, snake it up in front of the water pump. Are you sure it doesn’t just need a new regulator?

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Old 03-25-2018, 10:50 AM
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Seriously, the belt has to come off which is never fun in a 603.
It's a 30 second job without a viscous fan in the way.
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Old 03-25-2018, 11:01 AM
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It's a 30 second job without a viscous fan in the way.
I hope so.

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??? Disconnecting the battery might be the most difficult part. Seriously, the belt has to come off which is never fun in a 603. From there it’s a couple of bolts and some wires for the alternator to come off. If it doesn’t drop to the ground, snake it up in front of the water pump. Are you sure it doesn’t just need a new regulator?

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It's that simple? Hopefully it doesn't take me 6 hours.

It charges fine but I'll double check, the problem is the bearing has play, it feels rough and gritty and most of all the bearing noise is LOUD! The alternator is roaring and my water pump is moaning, will replace both at the same time.
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Old 03-25-2018, 11:08 AM
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The water pump is a way bigger PITA than the alternator. If you're doing both at the same time, drop the alternator first, it'll give you some more clearance around the water pump.

Be prepared for a fight getting that stupid fan clutch off. You need some sort of tool to hold the pulley in place. Clean out the bolt head and take your time and use good quality tools. If the head rounds out, you're pretty f'd, see my thread earlier this year to see what I went through, and I had the shop and tools to deal with it.

The alternator is the least of your problems. Unplug the wires from the back, remove 2 bolts, drop out bottom.
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Old 03-25-2018, 11:27 AM
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Will take everything into consideration guys!

Btw I found out a trick from Eric.O of South Main Auto, he uses valve lapping compound on Hex bolts and screws, I tried it myself and I am amazed.

The grit, grips and reduces the chances of slippage and rounding out. I'll throw some on the fan clutch bolt after it's cleaned out.
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Tips on 300SDL alternator replacement?

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I hope so.



It's that simple? Hopefully it doesn't take me 6 hours.



It charges fine but I'll double check, the problem is the bearing has play, it feels rough and gritty and most of all the bearing noise is LOUD! The alternator is roaring and my water pump is moaning, will replace both at the same time.

Hmmmmm, my 240D developed what I’d only call a roar last year before winter and I didn’t know what it was. Thought maybe carrier bearing but drivetrain sounds ok, then thought maybe just noise infiltration because I took off wrinkly vinyl door things and faded fabric door strips but I don’t that’s it either - what does your alternator roar sound like? Does it get louder with speed? How do you know it’s the alternator and specifically what bearing?

Errr, should also mention I found a gaping exhaust hole before the muffler that coulda been the culprit but I haven’t driven it since changing muffler.



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Couldn't install alternator because the wiring to the alternator was too short...
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Couldn't install alternator because the wiring to the alternator was too short...
How's that? I assume you are aware that the alternator can be "clocked" to any of four positions by undoing the screws and rotating the case. That may allow you to move the connections to a more convenient position.
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:37 PM
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How's that? I assume you are aware that the alternator can be "clocked" to any of four positions by undoing the screws and rotating the case. That may allow you to move the connections to a more convenient position.
I forgot about that...


Also I couldn't get the last bottom right bolt removed from the water pump, what kind of wrench do I need? Ratcheting?
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Old 03-25-2018, 07:46 PM
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Can you elaborate on the water pump bolt? The tightening torque is very low, something like 10-15nm, so they should come right out if the gasket hasn't been leaking.

If access is the problem, a box-end wrench is often your friend. I know access is tight around the crankshaft on a couple of those bolts. I had issues with the bottom-most one and went it with a box-end from the passenger side. Sucked, but it came out.
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Can you elaborate on the water pump bolt? The tightening torque is very low, something like 10-15nm, so they should come right out if the gasket hasn't been leaking.

If access is the problem, a box-end wrench is often your friend. I know access is tight around the crankshaft on a couple of those bolts. I had issues with the bottom-most one and went it with a box-end from the passenger side. Sucked, but it came out.
It wasn't tight but I could only turn in an 1/8 of a turn at a time and I was lucky if I could hook back on.

I constantly had to feel for it.

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