Synthetic Paint Sealant?

[renaissanceman]

Has anyone ever use something similar to Meguiar's mirror glaze on one of these old vehicles? I'm a little nervous about a synthetic product on old paint, but I also weary of waxing...

Let's hear everyone's thoughts and experiences!

[Diseasel300]

I've used that exact product on the SDL. My paint is trashed, so I don't feel bad experimenting on it. My impression was "meh". A good buff and wax seems to do a better job IMHO.

[97 SL320]

Originally Posted by renaissanceman

I'm a little nervous about a synthetic product on old paint, but I also weary of waxing...

Define Synthetic. I'm guessing calling the wax " synthetic " plays to the " synthetic is better because it is tech crowd. "

Somewhere I read that modern paint just needs gentle washing and occasional buffing to keep in good condition. Keeping it clean is the key to prevent oxidation damage. Unless the wax has a UV blocker, the paint will still fade as much as no wax.

Modern paint from the 70's and up could be considered " Synthetic " as Acrylic Enamel and Acrylic Lacquer were invented to take the place of the not so durable Alkyd Enamel and Nitrocellulose Lacquer.

In the 80's, 2 stage clear coat / top coat started to become more main stream with a Urethane base , this could be considered more synthetic. ( or sometimes as a single stage system. )

I've been seeing standard DOT 3 brake fluid being labeled as synthetic and I doubt the formula is any different that what we have been using for the past 30 years.

[renaissanceman]

That is what I have for my my modern cars. I was considering applying to the Benz.

[97 SL320]

The USA MSDS / SDS has ingredients on page 1. https://images.nationaltoolwarehouse.com/images/Product_Media/MSDS/MGL/MGL-M2164_MSDS.pdf

A slight bit more info , page 2 / 3
https://www.meguiars.com/sites/default/files/pdf/M21%20SDS.pdf

The UK MSDS / SDS has a much more detailed list on page 3 https://www.meguiars.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/26-6562-8_UK-1.pdf

[Squiggle Dog]

In basic terms, synthetic wax is polymer-based instead of carnauba wax-based. Though synthetic wax is technically not "wax", detailing product companies finally had to cave and call it wax as well, due to consumers who were demanding "wax" because that's the term they were used to and didn't realize that this polymer product was a superior counterpart to wax.

[JHZR2]

Highly recommend SiO2 type coatings if the paint has been reasonably corrected. The spray sealants work quite well too.

[Frank Reiner]

Originally Posted by JHZR2

Highly recommend SiO2 type coatings if the paint has been reasonably corrected. The spray sealants work quite well too.

From Wikipedia:
Silicon dioxide, also known as silica, silicic acid or silicic acid anydride is an oxide of silicon with the chemical formula SiO₂, most commonly found in nature as quartz and in various living organisms.^[5][6] In many parts of the world, silica is the major constituent of sand. Silica is one of the most complex and most abundant families of materials, existing as a compound of several minerals and as synthetic product.

In what form would Silicon Dioxide/SiO2 be employed in the preparation of a paint sealer?

[JHZR2]

Originally Posted by Frank Reiner

From Wikipedia:
Silicon dioxide, also known as silica, silicic acid or silicic acid anydride is an oxide of silicon with the chemical formula SiO₂, most commonly found in nature as quartz and in various living organisms.^[5][6] In many parts of the world, silica is the major constituent of sand. Silica is one of the most complex and most abundant families of materials, existing as a compound of several minerals and as synthetic product.

In what form would Silicon Dioxide/SiO2 be employed in the preparation of a paint sealer?

There are a few forms, varying by particle size, content, etc. It’s the use of SiO2 nano particles suspended in a clear resin that when applied, hardens and cross links into a virtually impermeable surface that is chemically bonded to your vehicle. Some cure by cross linking, some by solvent drying, some by electrostatic means when rinsed off.

The best of these coating s must have proper paint protection upfront, as they are considered “semi-permanent” in that it will always be there until it is abraded off the surface.

They offer significant water repellency/beading, chemical and uv resistance, etc.

[koooop]

I use a lot of Meguiar’s products, but honestly the wax has been a total bust on the single stage original paint on my W123.

The spray on Products work pretty nice. I use ultimate waterless wash and wax, ultimate quik detailer and high gloss premium quik detailer.

The synthetic X-press spray wax is a great product, But it can be a little smeary on the old single stage paints. Since my old Benz sits outside the smear comes off after I wipe it down once or twice in the mornings.