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Problems with paint
I have a 1983 300SD painted silberblau-silver blue, with painted bumpers.
I bought this car from a forum member's father and the car had original paint on it. I took the car to a guy to get a quarter panel ding fixed and later, to get the rear bumper repainted. The problem is that the silver bumper came back BROWN (anthracit) I know this is wrong but to get the guy to repaint, I have to get something from Mercedes that shows that the paint supplier gave the guy the wrong color (I just took the plastic bumper over to save time and space). I need the info from Mercedes. The local dealers won't help. The car has a paint code tag near the radiator but I also want to get info based on the VIN. I am thinking of going to the Classic Center and talking to Tom Hanson. Any other ideas? I can send him proof of ownership. Your thoughts, please.
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Strelnik Invest in America: Buy a Congressman! 1950 170SD 1951 Citroen 11BN 1953 Citroen 11BNF limo 1953 220a project 1959 180D 1960 190D 1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr 1983 240D daily driver 1983 380SL 1990 350SDL daily driver alt 3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5 3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6 |
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What's the paint code it is meant to be according to the tag?
With code in hand you can usually find a picture of the example on the interweb - is that enough proof? Otherwise there are copies of the original colour selection charts on the internet too
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Run the VIN through a website VIN decoder, it'll tell you what the original options were, including paint codes.
This one: https://www.datamb.com returns the correct results for both my SDL and the Euro SL, so I'd think it was accurate enough.
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Current stable: 1995 E320 149K (Nancy) 1983 500SL 120K (SLoL) Black Sheep: 1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) Gone but not forgotten: 1986 300SDL (RIP) 1991 350SD 1991 560SEL 1990 560SEL 1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!) |
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My '80 coupe is silver-blue. It is code 930.
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In the absence of a paint code, perhaps the car has been repainted in a non-standard color.
My body man took the fuel door off and took it to the paint shop where it could be matched. |
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VIN ?
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Greg 2012 S350 BlueTEC 4Matic 2007 ML 320 CDI 2007 Leisure Travel Serenity 2006 Sprinter 432k 2005 E320 CDI 1998 SLK230 (teal) 1998 SLK230 (silver) 1996 E300D 99k, 30k on WVO Previous: 1983 240D, on WVO 1982 300D, on WVO 1983 300CD, on WVO 1986 300SDL 237k, 25k on WVO (Deerslayer) 1991 350SDL 249k, 56k on WVO - Retired to a car spa in Phoenix 1983 380 SEC w/603 diesel, 8k on WVO 1996 E300D 351k, 177k on WVO |
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Strelnik Invest in America: Buy a Congressman! 1950 170SD 1951 Citroen 11BN 1953 Citroen 11BNF limo 1953 220a project 1959 180D 1960 190D 1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr 1983 240D daily driver 1983 380SL 1990 350SDL daily driver alt 3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5 3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6 |
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That looks like a US VIN which isn't the same as a Mercedes one.
I'd expect your VIN to be something like WDB?126120?????? 300SD is a 126.120 chassis type - that's the one that in EPC will come with the colour code from the factory - the alternative is to post information from the ID tag
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1992 W201 190E 1.8 171,000 km - Daily driver 1981 W123 300D ~ 100,000 miles / 160,000 km - project car stripped to the bone 1965 Land Rover Series 2a Station Wagon CIS recovery therapy! 1961 Volvo PV544 Bare metal rat rod-ish thing I'm here to chat about cars and to help others - I'm not here "to always be right" like an internet warrior Don't leave that there - I'll take it to bits! |
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Worked for me.....
FIN WDB12612012024313 VIN WDBCB20A3CB024313 Model Year 1982 Model 300 SD Engine 617951 12 024395 Transmission 722303 02 187729 Order Number 0 1 705 56398 Order Location UNITED STATES (USA) Interior LEATHER - BLUE (232) Paint 1 SILVER BLUE METALLIC (930U) Paint 5 32 Code Description 410 SLIDING ROOF, ELECTRICALLY OPERATED 440 TEMPOMAT (CRUISE CONTROL) 451 TACHOMETER 467 CENTRAL LOCKING MECHANISM AND INSTRUMENTS WITH ENGLISH LETTERING 491 U.S. VERSION 504 OUTSIDE REARVIEW MIRROR, RIGHT; ELECTRICALLY CONTROLLED; L.H.D 519 BECKER RADIO MEXICO GRAND PRIX, ELECTRONIC (USA) 524 PAINTWORK - PRESERVATION 531 AUTOMATIC ANTENNA 543 SUN VISOR WITH VANITY MIRROR, ILLUMINATED, LEFT AND RIGHT 570 FOLDING ARMREST, FRONT 588 AUTOMATIC CLIMATE CONTROL AND ELECTRIC WINDOW LIFTERS (FRONT AND REAR DOORS) 592 HEAT-INSULATING GLASS, ALL-AROUND, HEATED REAR WINDOW PANE, BAND FILTER 611 COURTESY LAMPS FOR FRONT AND REAR DOORS 639 ELIMINATION OF FIRST-AID BOX AND WARNING TRIANGLE 640 15-HOLE LIGHT ALLOY RIMS 668 MODE OF PACKING VE III WITH STYROPOR BUMPER RAILS 673 HIGH-CAPACITY BATTERY 802 CHANGE OF MODEL YEAR, THE LAST FIGURE SHOWING THE NEW MODEL YEAR Mercedes Benz VIN decoded at https://www.datamb.com/vin/7l9rK2eY9Kv2bZeLm
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Current stable: 1995 E320 149K (Nancy) 1983 500SL 120K (SLoL) Black Sheep: 1985 524TD 167K (TotalDumpster™) Gone but not forgotten: 1986 300SDL (RIP) 1991 350SD 1991 560SEL 1990 560SEL 1986 500SEL Euro (Rusted to nothing at 47K!) |
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What color information did you give the body shop when the bumper was dropped off? |
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I gave the body shop the VIN and they agreed it was silver blue because they had done a little bit of work on it for me, previously.
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Strelnik Invest in America: Buy a Congressman! 1950 170SD 1951 Citroen 11BN 1953 Citroen 11BNF limo 1953 220a project 1959 180D 1960 190D 1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr 1983 240D daily driver 1983 380SL 1990 350SDL daily driver alt 3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5 3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6 |
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Here are the "VINs" for the car: FIN WDB12612012024313 VIN WDBCB20A3CB024313 The FIN version follows the 14 digit VIN which was used until all world VINs were homologated to 17 characters using three additional letters indicating country of origin. WDB = West Germany Daimler-Benz
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Strelnik Invest in America: Buy a Congressman! 1950 170SD 1951 Citroen 11BN 1953 Citroen 11BNF limo 1953 220a project 1959 180D 1960 190D 1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr 1983 240D daily driver 1983 380SL 1990 350SDL daily driver alt 3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5 3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6 |
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I don't know what paint 5 32 is, but I called MBUSA Classic Center and they told me the other paint for the cladding and bumper is 7175 matte grey. I have all this info and am going with the bumper to the painter's today to sort this out.
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Strelnik Invest in America: Buy a Congressman! 1950 170SD 1951 Citroen 11BN 1953 Citroen 11BNF limo 1953 220a project 1959 180D 1960 190D 1960 Borgward Isabella TS 2dr 1983 240D daily driver 1983 380SL 1990 350SDL daily driver alt 3 x Citroen DS21M, down from 5 3 x Citroen 2CV, down from 6 |
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I posted the list below a while back.
Any chance this car used to be 2 tone? At least in the early 90's MB used 2 tone but ended this in the mid 90's. I'm not sure how far back that goes. My 97 C280 is 702 Smoke Silver ( gold tint ) with bumper rub strips that MB calls 7176 Shell Gray according to the data card. The color is somewhat darker than tan but not quite brown. The car had been repainted at some point so I don't know if the tan / brown is the factory color. https://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/318879-whats-my-bumper-trim-color-code.html Here is my list of color codes, not sure what years but they look to be late 80's and up. http://color-online.glasurit.com/ http://www.amcon-luxled.com/mbcar/options.html http://www.landiss.com/paintcodes.htm Mercedes Paint Codes -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Code Color (* = metallic) 019 designo red* (crimson metallic*) 040 black (schwarz) 050 white (weiss) 122 pearl grey (perlmattgrau)* 124 arabian grey (arabergrau) 125 pearl grey (perlgrau) 131 pastellweiss 140 silver grey (silbergrau) 143 fern white 147 arctic white (arcticweiss) 149 polar white (polarweiss) 153 snow white (schneeweiss), glacier white 157 beige grey (beigegrau) 158 white grey (weissgrau) 160 tropic black* 162 blue grey (blaugrau) 164 dark grey (dunkelgrau) 166 blue grey (blaugrau) 169 light stone grey (steingrau hell) 171 stone grey (steingrau) 172 anthracite grey (anthrazitgrau)* 173 anthracite grey (anthrazitgrau) 178 medium grey (mittelgrau)* 180 silver grey (silbergrau)* 181 light beige (hellbeige) 185 melanite black* 186 cement grey (zementgrau) 189 greenish-black (emerald black) (black opal) (smaragdsschwarz)* 190 graphite grey (graphitgrau) 195 meteor grey (meteorgrau)* 197 obsidian black* 199 black pearl (blue-black) (blauschwarz)* 218 lindgrün 221 dark green (dunkelgrün) 226 moss green (moosgrün) 229 medium green (mittelgrün) 231 perlmutter grün 249 spruce green (malachite) (malachit)* 254 pine green* 256 crystal green* 259 forest green (waldgrün) 260 oasis green (oasengrün) 261 willow green* 268 dark green (dunkelgrün) blaugrün? 269 tourmaline green (turmalingrün)* 270 blue green (blaugrün) 272 amazon green (amazonitgrün)* 274 light green (hellgrün)* 278 tundra green (tundragrün) 279 vivianite green (vivianitgrün)* 282 jungle green (dschungelgrün)* 291 dark olive (dunkeloliv) 304 horizon blue (horizontblau) 312 labrador blue 317 grey blue (graublau) 320 blue (blau) 332 dark blue (dunkelblau) 334 light blue (hellblau) 335 mercedesblau 339 violane (violan)* 341 aquamarine blue (aquamarinblau)* 348 ice blue (pearl blue) (perlblau)* 350 medium blue (mittelblau) 353 light blue (hellblau), teallite blue 3538 chassisrot 355 diamond blue (diamintblau)* 356 light blue (hellblau) 359 tanzanite blue (tansanitblau) 366 azurite blue (azuritblue)* 375 atoll blue* 380 delphinblau 381 violet (floraviolett) 387 blue (blau)* 396 medium blue (mittelblau)* 404 milan brown (milanbraun)* 406 cayenne orange (cayenneorange) 408 havana brown (havannabraun) 409 dark brown (dunkelbraun) 4100 cement grey (zementgrau) 412 beige 419 ikonengold* 4200 light blue (hellblau) 422 byzanzgold* 423 dark tobacco brown (tabakbraun dunkel) 424 topaz brown (topasbraun) 427 russet brown 430 autumn beige (herbstbeige) 432 havana brown* (also bisonbraun?) 439 cream (creme) 441 desert taupe (impala brown) (hellbeige)* 442 deer brown (rehbraun) 444 sand beige 459 maroon brown 460 dark red brown (dunkelrotbraun) 461 bronze brown (broncebraun)* 462 beige* 463 copper (kupfer)* 467 sandbeige* 470 coloradobeige 473 champagne (champagnermetallic)* 475 nutria* 476 golden brown 479 walnut brown (also moorbraun?) 480 manganese brown* 481 blackberry (bornite) (bornit)* 482 apricot orange 483 volcanic red (vulcanrot)* 485 rosewood (rosenholz)* 501 orient red 502 speed red 504 english red (englischrot) 512 garnet red (almadine red) (almandinrot)* 513 bordeau red (bordeauxrot) 514 carnelian (agate) red (karneolrot) 516 medium red (mittelrot) 519 red, light red (rot) 525 brilliant red (brillantrot)* 526 mercedes red (mercedesrot) 5328 standard blue (standardblau) 534 fire red (feuerrot) 538 red brown (rotbraun) 540 desert red (barolo red) (barolorot) 541 storm red 542 dark red (dunkelrot) 543 strawberry red (erdbeerrot) 567 maroon (lasurrot)* (also titanite red, titanitrot)* 568 signal red (signalrot) (hellrot) 571 brilliant red (rot)* 572 ruby red (rubin)* 573 dark bordeau red (dunkelbordeauxrot) 574 spindelrot 576 red (rot) 581 inca red* 582 imperial red (imperialrot) 585 mesa red 587 cabernet red (pajettrot)* 589 jupiter red 594 ember red (glutrot) 597 saturn red* 606 maple yellow (ahorngelb) 608 ivory (elfenbein) 618 mimosa yellow (mimosangelb) 620 light ivory (hellelfenbein) 623 light ivory (hellelfinbein) 6277 standard green (standardgrün) 6285 pine green (fichtengrün) 6286 unimog green (unimog-grün) 630 corn yellow (maisgelb) 651 pueblo beige 658 ivory (elfenbein) 670 light ivory (hellelfenbein) 673 sahara yellow (saharagelb) 680 sun yellow 681 manila beige (also weizengelb?) 684 pastel beige 690 light ochre 691 light yellow (lichtgelb) 693 travertine beige* 696 night black 702 smoke silver (rauchsilber)* ( MY 97 SL320 ) 706 moonlight silver (mondsilber)* 716 grey beige (graubeige) 717 papyrus white (papyrosweiss) 7186 pearl grey (perlgrau) 7187 standard grey (standardgrau) 721 onyx grey (onyxgrau)* 723 cubanite silver (cubanitsilber)* 726 beige grey (beigegrau) 728 beige grey (beigegrau)* 733 phantom grey (phantomgrau) 735 astral silver (astralsilber)* (bundt style wheels) 737 classic white (classicweiss) 740 pastel grey (pastellgrau) 744 brilliant silver (brillantsilber)* (claimed to be close to new wheels) 745 crystal silver* 747 granite grey, perlite grey* 748 comet grey* 751 ascot grey (liasgrau) 752 carrara grey 753 (tektitgrau) 760 quartz silver (quarzsilber)* 761 polar silver* 791 dune gold* 801 mangrove green* 803 moss green 815 agate green (achatgrün) 816 agate green, andradite green 822 forest green 823 sea foam green 824 sea green (seegrün) 825 deep green (tiefgrün) 834 moss green (moosgrün)* 858 mesa red????? 860 green (grün) 861 silver green (silbergrün)* 862 pine green (piniengrün)* 867 kaledoniengrün 870 nickelgrün 874 citrus green (citrusgrün)* 875 mango green 876 cypress green (zypressengrün)* 877 blue green (also petrol?)* 880 cactus green (agavengrün) 881 thistle green* (also silberdistel?) 888 teal blue (beryl) (beryll)* 891 alexandrite green (alexandritgrün)* 900 deep blue (surfblau) 903 blue (blau) 904 midnight blue (dark blue) (dunkelblau) 906 grey blue (graublau)* 9147 same as 147 arctic white 917 aqua (aquablau) 920 deep blue (tiefblau) 922 pastel blue (pastellblau) 929 nautical blue (nautikblau)* 930 silver blue* 931 magnetite blue (magnetitblau)* 932 lapis blue (lapisblau)* 933 deep-sea blue (tiefseeblau)* 934 china blue (chinablau) 940 marine blue 941 (aragonitblau) 945 lapis blue (lapisblau) 949 cascade blue (kaskadenblau) 958 reef blue* 960 light ochre????? also alabaster white? 9963 indium grey* (indiumgrau) AKA C963 Mercedes-Benz All Models Touch Up Paint Tropengruen (Trim) 6856 Sodalith Blue (matt) Pearl 5205 Shell Gray (matt) 7176 Ruby (matt) Pearl 3518 Rio Blue (matt) 5309 Paprika Red (matt) 3524 Orient Green (matt) Pearl 6301 Midnight Blue (matt) 5214 Marble Grey (matt) 7201 M/S Grey (matt) 7209 Laud. Grey (matt) 7204 Imperial Red (matt) 3533 Gray (matt) DB-7176 Corundum Red (matt) 3549 Brilliant Emerald (matt) Pearl 6864 Black Opal (matt) 9122 Azure Blue (matt) 5218 Atlas Grey (matt) 7181 Alto Grey (matt) 7700 Agate Grey (matt) 7202 Agate Green (matt) 6303 Spruce Green 249/6249 Smoke Silver 702/9702 Ruby Pearl 572/3572 Royal Indigo 339/4339 Polar White 149/9149 Moonstone Grey 721/7721 Midnight Blue 904/5904 Imperial Red 582/3582 Cypress Green 272/6272 Calypso Green 279 Brilliant Silver 744/9744 Brilliant Emerald Pearl 269/6269 Black Pearl DB-199 Black Opal Pearl 189/9189 Black 040/9040 Azure Blue Pearl 366/5366 Aspen Green 891/6891 |
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