Wait ~ you're going to quit before you even know ? .

You're going to have one helluvva rough enlistment if you take that attitude in .

You're young and so easily excited by sloth and incompetence, you need to learn to be able to let the B.S. roll off your back like water off a duck or you'll get steamrollered .

? Guess how I know this ? :rolleyes: .

Too soon old, too late wise .

Be very, VERY careful which branch of service you enter.....

Hope that works out for you.

Seems like a great attitude. I'm sure the shop whose time you wasted won't miss you. Good luck with that enlistment, you should do great with the smart mouth.

Eh, there was no getting to know them, long story short.

No one gave me any sort of respect, and they always had a condescending attitude. There was no getting on their good side.

I sold a brake job on MY TICKET, was about to perform said brake job, SERVICE WRITER GAVE ME THE GREEN LIGHT, then one of the techs literally out loud said "No, I don't trust him to do brake jobs".

I disagreed but they weren't hearing it. What's the point of selling jobs if the senior techs eat everything I sell ON MY TICKET?

The service writer also wanted another tech to verify and look over every suspension and brake job I recommend.

I had no say so or clout over anything I did, period. They did not trust my judgement in the SLIGHTEST.
Hell, today the old hydro pneumatic lift got stuck in the up position and I was about to notify the manager but the tech said to just stand there and hold the up bottom.

It's clearly broken and not going to fix itself.

After 7 years in the workforce I never had issues like this before, I never got fired either. NEVER had issues like this in school either. These guys where different.

And no I'm not some runt who can't obey authority, you guys just don't understand my situation.

Ha! You don't seem to realize that the shop dynamic he is dealing with is common. As I stated before, we are not exactly dealing with MENSA candidates in this type of shop.

If this shop really cared, they would have explained to him why they are moving jobs to others and how he would still get paid for the selling portion of the job.

I'd imagine the shop he's dealing with probably goes through employees like water. Depending on the area, turnover can be monthly, weekly, or even daily. Maybe the shop's at fault, maybe the labor force, maybe both. Who knows.

What I do know: When you start a new job, you're at the bottom of the totem pole, pal. You're sweeping floors, watching other people, getting instruction, getting checked on. It's part of the routine. You want respect? You EARN IT. Just because you walked in the door doesn't mean a damn thing. You show you know your stuff, you demonstrate that you're committed, and you power through the initiation BS. THEN people in the office will give you respect and move you to less menial jobs.

Welcome to the working world. Nobody owes you a damn thing. You earn it.

Based on the history of the OP on this forum, I wouldn't trust him with a brake change either. The shop runner would probably be headed down to NAPA 3 or 4 times for pieces broken or shot across the shop and lost. No offense to the OP, but some people "have it" and some just don't.

Probably given the shop isn't explaining why certain things are happening.

As for the rest of your post. If I come across someone with drive but less experience, I will cultivate them as drive isn't something that can be taught. I want someone to have a bit of snap in their step though there is a fine line between arrogance and confidence.

There's always more to the story that isn't told. A hand that's got the drive and ability to learn the trade and apply it will get noticed. One who thinks they know everything when they walk in the door won't last long.

Attitude is everything. Based on the OP's attitude on this thread, he's lucky he lasted a week. If he worked for me he'd have been gone after Day 2. I don't have time, money, or toleration for arrogance and insubordination from my help. If they want to learn and they have a desire and drive to do it, I go out of my way to help them out. The attitude better be checked at the door though.

If you do end up in military service I just hope you don't get someone killed or severely hurt; possibly yourself! Basic training is going to be difficult with these attitudes, IF you don't wash out.

Someone mentioned it earlier, respect is earned, it's not an entitlement. And it's a two way street.

Instead of whining about the brake job you could have asked the tech if he could use a hand and then watched and listened to him in the process. You might have learned something, could have maybe showed them you actually have something valuable to contribute, and maybe even started making an ally on the shop floor. How else do you expect to learn all the stuff you don't even know you don't know?

Oh yeah, if you were a little smarter you would have showed up for lunch with a couple of your expertly made pizzas to help grease the skids and make friends!

Wow, one day on the job and you didn't have any clout over anything and they didn't trust your judgement?? They don't know you from Adam, and they are supposed to let you have free reign and trust your "judgement"?? Are you kidding?? They have to see your work, and SEE IF YOU CAN BE TRUSTED and have the knowledge to take on bigger and more complicated work assignments. What you want to do is walk in the door and start running the place..........let me clue you in.........THAT AIN'T GOING TO HAPPEN!!!!!

Oops, didn't get fired just sent home for the day

I would make pizza for them, but it would have to be onsight. I would literally bring a pizza oven over and stretch out dough there. It would be the best pizza they've eaten in their life.

Probably true what you're saying, I'm a damn good pizza maker, but a mediocre mechanic. There was a 16yr old and 30ish old coworkers at my job who sucked at making pizza no matter how many they made.


Lets see if i can be exceptional at both.

Only if you treated him like this type of shop does. I'd expect you to have a much better shop dynamic and explain how things operate. If the employee does not respond to mentoring, then send them on their way.


From a prior post:

This only works in shops where the other techs are confidant in their own abilities and don't feel threatened . There is absolutely no reason for other techs at this facility to say anything good about any new guy as apparently this shop runs on commission. About the only way our guy graduates to good jobs is when other techs die.

Sure, our guy may be a bit over the top in drive vs actual skill but the shop should have explained how the shop works / responsibilities / level of work / goals before he hit the shop floor. I'm betting the shop gave him a blue sky story just to get him in the door.

OK. Perhaps it is time to have a frank conversation with management about the shop dynamic / expectations / demonstrate skills / how to move to better jobs.