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Old 05-12-2019, 11:08 AM
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If your car (it's been a long time since I worked on a MW pump) doesn't have the drain plug then use a MityVac or it's ilk to suck the oil from the pump. As Sugar Bear said, use mineral oil as a flush. Refill with a good 30wt. oil. I've never used a synthetic oil in the pump but it probably wouldn't hurt it.

You should have a MityVac anyway to trouble shoot vacuum issues. Good reason to buy another toy, err, I mean "tool" to add to your kit.

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Following up with Stretch's recommendation.

Things which aren't supposed to go "bump in the night"
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Old 05-13-2019, 07:26 AM
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If your car (it's been a long time since I worked on a MW pump) doesn't have the drain plug then use a MityVac or it's ilk to suck the oil from the pump. As Sugar Bear said, use mineral oil as a flush. Refill with a good 30wt. oil. I've never used a synthetic oil in the pump but it probably wouldn't hurt it.

Cheers Mike. I've selected this MOS2 oil for the injection pump. Will give it a good flush.



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Old 05-13-2019, 09:07 AM
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Purchased the car and drove 175 miles from the Cotswolds back to London. The car drove in the most delightful way imaginable - very peppy and fun in the corners (I was expecting a slow barge!)

I've noticed several small issues and things to do (see list below) but found nearly no rust under the car. I did find noticeable engine blowby (demonstrated by the dancing oil cap video below) but the car started somewhat instantly when cold, leaked nothing after the drive, emitted no black or white smoke and drove like a new car (no exaggeration here). The previous owner did share that the car wasn’t used for nine years, which may be the cause:

1) Brakes pulsing under pressure. (Could be uneven/ warped rotors or the front calipers. Rear calipers were just changed)

2) Car pulling slightly to the left.

3) Both Front Doors locks not locking & central locking not operational

4) Engine blow by (filmed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zb34QLC9s)

5) Injection pump oil change (Lubro Moly MOS2 10W40) + Diesel Purge + 3 fuel filters

6) Power steering filter(s) and fluid change - (Febi Bilstein -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002LANU9A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1)

7) Manual Transmission Oil change - (Lubro Moly Synthetic fluid- https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004GV07R0/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1)

8) All window, sunroof and screen seals need replacing

9) Front windscreen chip needs a repair

10) Gear lever bushings as the lever is very wobbly and imprecise.

11) Check subframe, engine, transmission mounts and driveshaft couplers

12) Lubricate speedometer cable

13) Minor rust repair on left hand side corner underneath rear windscreen.

14) Roof lining needs a thorough cleaning with minor repair

15) Sunroof jammed but doesn't look rusted. Owner swore it worked a few months ago but I can't hear the motor engage.

16) Series to pencil glowplug upgrade

That's all I can find so far!
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:24 AM
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Cheers Mike. I've selected this MOS2 oil for the injection pump. Will give it a good flush.



https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CPL94A4/ref=twister_B00EZJAPNO?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
At the risk of turning this into one the famous Peach Parts "oil threads" that looks a bit too modern too me!


I'd just change it with what ever is meant to be in there (see owners manual)
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Old 05-13-2019, 09:39 AM
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Purchased the car and drove 175 miles from the Cotswolds back to London. The car drove in the most delightful way imaginable - very peppy and fun in the corners (I was expecting a slow barge!)

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Like I said there's a fair amount of nice technology hidden under than rather boring German jacket


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I've noticed several small issues and things to do (see list below) but found nearly no rust under the car. I did find noticeable engine blowby (demonstrated by the dancing oil cap video below) but the car started somewhat instantly when cold, leaked nothing after the drive, emitted no black or white smoke and drove like a new car (no exaggeration here). The previous owner did share that the car wasn’t used for nine years, which may be the cause:

1) Brakes pulsing under pressure. (Could be uneven/ warped rotors or the front calipers. Rear calipers were just changed)

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Brakes - could be the discs - but check the front wheel bearing end play / float too


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2) Car pulling slightly to the left.
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Check tracking but only after you've checked the rubber parts in the suspension system - there could be worn parts that need replacing - no sense chasing your tail


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3) Both Front Doors locks not locking & central locking not operational



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Check vacuum - but make sure the mechanical parts work perfectly first


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4) Engine blow by (filmed here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7zb34QLC9s)
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Do several oil changes and drive it for a bit - could get better with use



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5) Injection pump oil change (Lubro Moly MOS2 10W40) + Diesel Purge + 3 fuel filters
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If you must! Bit of a BW fetish if you ask me!


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6) Power steering filter(s) and fluid change - (Febi Bilstein -
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B002LANU9A/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1)
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Febi filters are usually 'king wank


Take a good look at the power steering pressure and return lines - often the oil has eaten the insides and you get bits of rubber floating about in the fluid



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7) Manual Transmission Oil change - (Lubro Moly Synthetic fluid- https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B004GV07R0/ref=ox_sc_saved_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1)
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Changing to an oil that's not what the book wants (in this case it is ATF if I remember correctly) usually causes nasty shifting trouble


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8) All window, sunroof and screen seals need replacing
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Wait till you see the prices!


Needs to be done in the UK though - this is the #1 (OK perhaps #2!) reason why old cars die in the UK


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9) Front windscreen chip needs a repair
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Go Kwikfit!


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10) Gear lever bushings as the lever is very wobbly and imprecise.
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Just do the parts under the shifter first


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11) Check subframe, engine, transmission mounts and driveshaft couplers
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Good plan - will transform the car


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12) Lubricate speedometer cable
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Does it squeak?


Often difficult to get access to MB speedo cables


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13) Minor rust repair on left hand side corner underneath rear windscreen.
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Uh oh!


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14) Roof lining needs a thorough cleaning with minor repair
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That'll be fun


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15) Sunroof jammed but doesn't look rusted. Owner swore it worked a few months ago but I can't hear the motor engage.
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Electric on a W115? WOW!


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16) Series to pencil glowplug upgrade

That's all I can find so far!

I wouldn't bother! Why change it for the sake of it?
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:07 AM
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Cheers Stretch! I don't have the requisite skills to do all of the above but will take a shot at as many as I can!

Would you replace the Master brake cylinder as a precaution given the history is unknown?
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:19 AM
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Cheers Stretch! I don't have the requisite skills to do all of the above but will take a shot at as many as I can!

Would you replace the Master brake cylinder as a precaution given the history is unknown?
Nope!


I would leave as many original parts on the vehicle as possible


Often:- Modern stuff just isn't as good as the old


I have found that servicing / cleaning the old is often more reliable than "buying new because you think new is better". Admittedly things aren't as bad as they were ten years ago when the cost cutting box shifting mentality meant things were sometimes broken in the box (!) but even so things like an original 1970s / 80s Bosch alternator even with worn bearings will probably out last a new cheapo unbranded effort. Replace the Bosch bearings with new - tart up the windings if necessary and hey ho potentially another 40 years decent service from the original...
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:21 AM
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The key is in the servicing and the boring cleaning - put in the effort cleaning and you will be rewarded. Unfortunately cos of the cost of labour rates vs cheap parts, the attitude is often to just put on new - but I don't think in the long run you get the better deal.
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Old 05-13-2019, 11:26 AM
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The key is in the servicing and the boring cleaning - put in the effort cleaning and you will be rewarded. Unfortunately cos of the cost of labour rates vs cheap parts, the attitude is often to just put on new - but I don't think in the long run you get the better deal.
Bingo. I've gone through a couple "rebuild" calipers to find debris inside straight from the parts store.
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Are factory power sunroof's rare?
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Are factory power sunroof's rare?
Power sunroofs on four door W123s in Europe are quite rare - more of a coupe thing - I'm surprised to hear you have one on a W115


Try and get the VIN data from your local friendly Mercedes dealership - it should help you identify any other interesting options
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Noticed this strange squeal when I tapped the throttle on cold start idle while in neutral.

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Only suggestion received for that sound ^ is likely a lose fan belt.

I checked the mpg today - 30 mpg US/ 36 mpg UK. This sounds about right for this model. Given this and that the engine uses no oil and leaks no oil (not a drop on the ground), I'm optimistic I can reduce the blowby.

I have no service history so need to ask if the blowby can be caused due to vacuum pump issues (central locking not working) and/ or unadjusted valves/ tappets?
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Old 05-15-2019, 04:07 AM
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What can happen with the vacuum system is that oil gets past the pump and into the system itself. There is meant to be a check valve (as they say here) == non return valve that sometimes falls victim to the oily gunk.

Go have a look - I'm sure it will be apparent - yet again it is all about the cleaning...

...sometimes I think 90% of what I end up doing on old cars is essentially just cleaning

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