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Old 05-22-2019, 01:12 PM
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1995 e300d hitch and trailer towing?

Ive always wanted a w124 body diesel(peviuosly owned 4 w123 and 1 w126) . Ive located a 1995 E300D with 200k miles on it. I was wondering if it could pull my 5x8 utility trailer with two 400# bikes on it? And if there is a reciever type hitch available for it?
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Old 05-22-2019, 01:39 PM
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Per a Google Search for the tow capacity of the car, I found another post from these forums asking the same question in 2003.

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I asked MB but their answer is that they do not want their cars used for towing?!
I know we've all seen these towing trailers in Europe, but apparently MBUSA does not want these to tow anything.

I would borrow a pickup or cargo van if I needed to really tow/haul anything.
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:06 PM
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These cars can tow very easily, the additional equipment on towing cars is a separate ATF cooler which fits in the right side of the bumper along with a duct and a cooling fan triggered by a 100C switch in the ATF cooler lines.

Almost all european E300D estate wagons had them by default.

I'll try to find the capacity rating.
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Old 05-22-2019, 02:25 PM
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Thankyou for the info.
My 06 Jetta tdi tows it easly so i figured since the Benz is so overbuilt it would be a no brainer. Maybe the w123 are better suited :-/ Ill look into a tranny cooler and fan/ temp display.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:18 PM
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If your trailer is a flat bed you should be fine without an additional cooler. U haul is a possible hitch source.
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Old 05-22-2019, 04:43 PM
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The load mentioned by the OP shouldn't tax the car much, unless you're blasting up a continuous grade in the Rockies in the summertime.
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Old 05-22-2019, 05:08 PM
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Curt Class 1 hitch is probably the most popular one used on the 124. I had one on my 95 E300 and used it to pull my trailer and riding lawnmower on occasion. If I remember correctly, the Curt website has excellent directions for install, they also come with the hitch/receiver as well. I also put one on my 87 300TD wagon, install only took a few hours. Very good hitch.

Never felt like it was doing any harm to either car when pulling trailer. You should be fine.
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Wind resistance is the major factor when towing a trailer at speed. Given your trailer is open and about same width of the car, drag won't be increased that much.

Will it be hilly where you are traveling, at what speed and for how long?

Does the trailer have brakes? 1,500 - 2,000 Lb is the typical limit for a non braked trailer to be legal. While less of an issue with a rear drive car, the rear of a front drive car can be pushed around under hard braking especially if you are braking hard and turning to avoid something. Trailer brakes reduce this effect dramatically.

Under braking, the cars nose drops and tail rises. This lifts the trailer tongue up transferring weight off the tongue and to the trailer axle further reducing the cars rear loading.

There is also a sway issue with long single axle trailers that can be recovered from by applying the trailer brake to straighten out the whole train. Yours is short so not a big deal but still a nice feature to have.

In general, most anything can tow most anything else, it just depends on how fast / how far and how safe you want to be. In your case, the MB will not have a problem going or stopping, I'd be more concerned about the Jetta stopping and being stable.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:30 AM
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If a trailer you are towing gets to wiggle wagging and you have no controllable trailer brakes the only recourse is to floor the gas. This takes some courage especially if going down hill, which is where you are most likely to get the wiggle waggling.
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Old 05-23-2019, 12:17 PM
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W210 Trailer Hitch Fits a W124 also.

I towed a harbor freight 4'x8' trailer to salvage lumber. I am sure that I towed over 1000lb loads.
Have the load balanced so there is enough tongue weight and the tail will not wage the dog.
I drove appropriate speeds for the tire's rating.
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Old 05-23-2019, 01:19 PM
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Agreed, absolutely vital that the trailer is front loaded so you are at least 60/40 front to rear on a single axle trailer.
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Old 05-24-2019, 12:52 PM
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Aren't the transmissions in the 1995 W124s very weak?
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Old 05-24-2019, 02:24 PM
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Aren't the transmissions in the 1995 W124s very weak?
No, the 722.3 and .4 are very robust and last a long time with proper fluid and filter changes. Both of my 124 car, '87 300TD and '95 E300 are getting close to 400k miles, original transmissions.


Have a hitch rated for up to 1500KG on my '87 wagon.
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