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Old 07-08-2019, 01:03 PM
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It looks like a shower curtain rod would to for $70 or so less.

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Old 07-08-2019, 01:27 PM
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It looks like a shower curtain rod would to for $70 or so less.
Maybe so, but would you have known unless I investigated?
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Old 07-09-2019, 10:37 PM
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You don't need a dial indicator to properly adjust wheel bearings .

? How much preload does this spreader bar apply ? .

I'd think a spring loaded shower curtain rod is too weak .
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Old 07-09-2019, 11:13 PM
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You don't need a dial indicator to properly adjust wheel bearings .

? How much preload does this spreader bar apply ? .

I'd think a spring loaded shower curtain rod is too weak .
Please define "properly."
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Old 07-10-2019, 12:58 AM
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To factory specification .

It's really not rocket science .

If you can't do it that's fine but do not try to insist others cannot do what you cannot .
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:09 AM
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To factory specification .

It's really not rocket science .

If you can't do it that's fine but do not try to insist others cannot do what you cannot .
My experience. If you get them too tight you will know that because it overheats.
End of my Experience because I dug out my Dial Indicator from the last place I left it and used it with no further problems ever.

You can get it too lose and you won't know that unless it is exceptionally lose and it will most likely run OK like that and several years down the road you may have a bearing issue.

It is also not rocket science that you won't know if you have the factory specification without the dial indicator.

If you ever re-new the rear well bearings you are defiantly going to need the dial indicator and if you ever do the 2 mm method you will need the dial indicator.

I even went out and bought a Metric Dial Indicator and a new magnetic base even though I had an Inch one. I have not priced them lately but at Harbor Fright my guess is $20-25 with the coupon.

Seems odd to spend money on an alignment but not be sure your bearing end play is correct by spending another say $25 for a tool that you can use for other stuff.

I also later found out that my Chevy Astro van has one piece front Wheel Hubs and disc. When the Disc is too thin you have to change the whole thing and guess what. It also calls for a dial indicator to set the end play.

But, as you said everyone gets to do it their own way.
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Old 07-10-2019, 10:24 AM
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I have dial indicators, once you learn how to properly adjust wheel bearings you don't need one .
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What exactly Mercedes was thinking the information should be somewhere. At this point I am not even sure if the outward pressure is critical.

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Old 07-10-2019, 11:48 AM
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It makes sense to me because it takes up any play and so allows for more accurate toe in adjustment .

Ideally you want as close to zero toe as the vehicle will drive well with....
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Old 07-10-2019, 03:39 PM
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I have dial indicators, once you learn how to properly adjust wheel bearings you don't need one .
The dial indicator is mentioned in the books because its the only way that both a green and old tech can adjust the bearing clearance dead on accurate in the first go.

however after the 5th or 6th time you can get them pretty close to accurate with feel.
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Old 07-10-2019, 04:27 PM
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To factory specification .

It's really not rocket science .

If you can't do it that's fine but do not try to insist others cannot do what you cannot .
What’s exactly too tight or too loose is perhaps open to interpretation.

Don’t critique the technique, I was trying to video one handed, but it’s really easy to use the dial indicator.

https://youtu.be/QNFXd3q6-3U

What was interesting to me was when close to “dialing in”, how little of a turn, 1/4-1/3 of a turn, was a major variation from way too loose to way too tight. “Just right” is only a tiny area to set.
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Old 07-10-2019, 05:12 PM
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What exactly Mercedes was thinking the information should be somewhere. At this point I am not even sure if the outward pressure is critical.
I think it is critical - the entire suspension is at ready to drive angle when being dialed in if the bar is installed. There is a shop near my home who have this really old man doing alignments on old american land yachts or muscle cars - the youngsters cannot do them (shims etc).

He installs a spreader bar on them - which looks like itself is about 100 years old

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