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Old 07-16-2019, 11:58 PM
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Thumbs down 68$ for 16 door striker bolts...

Replacing my door striker inserts. I'm planning on using a hand impact driver to break them loose. Upon testing them with Husky Allen keys, there still is a bit of play when inserted to the bolt head. Im worried if they strip with the impact, im out 68$ for replacement bolts.


Does anyone know the size / dimension's of these bolts to source them myself?


EDIT: Completed Pictures and process @ post#41

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Old 07-17-2019, 12:02 AM
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Take them to lowes in the fastener section and start screwing around.
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Old 07-17-2019, 02:12 AM
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Take them to lowes in the fastener section and start screwing around.
I rarely usey tape measure, but I use this at least once per job.

https://www.amazon.com/Bolt-Screw-Size-Gauge-Metric/dp/B00GINU44U
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:26 AM
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Replacing my door striker inserts. I'm planning on using a hand impact driver to break them loose. Upon testing them with Husky Allen keys, there still is a bit of play when inserted to the bolt head. Im worried if they strip with the impact, im out 68$ for replacement bolts.


Does anyone know the size / dimension's of these bolts to source them myself?
$ 4.25 for a non standard bolt that fits an old random car isn't expensive, but this is the diesel list.

Grind the end of the allen bit flat for a bit more grip. Many times bits are chamfered and this reduces engagement area. If the allen bolt does start to round out, reform the head with a hammer.

If a bolt won't loosen, move onto another one as sometimes taking pressure off one area changes pressure in another. Also, sometimes attempting to rotate an entire assembly helps too.
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:16 AM
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Little tip I've learned with allen bolts on these cars.......some #000 steel wool is your friend. Tear off a tiny pad and stretch it out, lay it over the recess in the allen screw, force the bit in. It won't strip, it won't slip, and it'll hold the screw on the allen key when you reinstall it.
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Old 07-17-2019, 04:54 PM
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Old 07-17-2019, 05:18 PM
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Little tip I've learned with allen bolts on these cars.......some #000 steel wool is your friend. Tear off a tiny pad and stretch it out, lay it over the recess in the allen screw, force the bit in. It won't strip, it won't slip, and it'll hold the screw on the allen key when you reinstall it.
Nice.

I have 0000, would that be too risky?
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:18 PM
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I've used 0000 myself, I prefer the 000 due to the larger wire size, seems to provide better grip and a firmer hold.
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Old 07-17-2019, 06:47 PM
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Another tip: With your hex socket in the screw, hit it hard with your hammer before loosening it. Even when using an impact driver, this extra step helps break the bond between the fastener and the part. You could even just hit the bolt head with the hammer, but you risk damaging something on the rebound, or missing the bolt altogether.
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Old 07-17-2019, 08:10 PM
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I did not reed all of the posts. Did anyone mention a Junk Yard to get some other bolts?
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Hot damn... Now we are making threads about how to turn a bolt....
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Old 07-17-2019, 09:24 PM
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Hot damn... Now we are making threads about how to turn a bolt....
Hey, someone's got to do it...............
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Old 07-17-2019, 11:00 PM
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Replacing my door striker inserts. I'm planning on using a hand impact driver to break them loose. Upon testing them with Husky Allen keys, there still is a bit of play when inserted to the bolt head. Im worried if they strip with the impact, im out 68$ for replacement bolts.


Does anyone know the size / dimension's of these bolts to source them myself?
Get them at a junk yard off of a W123 or W126. I just bought some, the door strikers were just $5 each. Thanks to vwnate for the tip about the W126 strikers being interchangeable.

I used a very small ball peen hammer and gave each one a firm (not to firm) whack, they came right off with an allen wrench, this worked on my car and the junkyard W126. I stripped the head out of one or two before I broke out the hammer.

I have a sack full of them that I foolishly purchased with the crappy Chinese door strikers I purchased before I discovered the "whack".
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Old 07-17-2019, 11:01 PM
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Another tip: With your hex socket in the screw, hit it hard with your hammer before loosening it. Even when using an impact driver, this extra step helps break the bond between the fastener and the part. You could even just hit the bolt head with the hammer, but you risk damaging something on the rebound, or missing the bolt altogether.
I guess I should have read this. LOL

I just hit the bolt.
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Old 07-17-2019, 11:03 PM
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For allen head bolts, put the wrench in the hole and use a center punch(A real one, with a hammer, not one of the spring ones) on each of the flats of the bolt to tighten the bolt against the allen wrench. Then have a helper use the same center punch to drive the bolt in a loosening direction while you're applying torque to the allen wrench. Your hand impact driver might do the same thing.

You can also use a Torx bit just slightly larger, and hammer it into the allen bolt. Obviously this creates a sacrificial situation for both the bolt and the Torx bit.

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Hot damn... Now we are making threads about how to turn a bolt....
I'd rather give some tips on how to turn a bolt............than give tips on how to turn the same bolt after the head's been stripped.

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