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Old 09-11-2019, 02:47 PM
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If you are going to consider changing out the filter assembly for another type, make sure the filter can handle an air flow that is at or above the stock 450 cfm rating. Other item to consider important is how well the oil separator is working. Some just just doesn't separate the oil well enough, basically it something you'll need to test.

Here is my setup with a w126 603 air box (630 cfm), coolant tank and a Kawasaki Jet Ski oil separator . Not exactly a bolt on affair. I had to create few of custom brackets, move the air conditioning low pressure line and piece together the tubing with a '85 Cali air intake rubber hose.










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Old 09-11-2019, 03:19 PM
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Can I point out that the stock air filter setup is a cold air intake whereas these options are hot air intake?
If you have the filter contained in a metal housing and run a tube from it up to the front of the car, as in the first picture I shared, it should work like the factory cold air intake. Actually, if the air filter is in front of the turbo and far enough from the engine, the air shouldn't be all that much warmer, especially if the car is moving and outside air is flowing into the engine compartment.

But, I'd be careful about a setup which places the air filter over the turbo or exhaust, though that's how the factory setup was, other than it having a tube which draws in cold air from the front of the car.

The W116 is difficult when it comes to fabricating a custom air intake, as the battery is located at the front of the engine compartment, and the cold air intake is located behind the headlight--and if you convert to Euro headlights, it seals off the air intake, choking the engine of air unless you disconnect the plastic tube and let it float over it so it sucks in air from under the hood.
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Old 09-11-2019, 03:38 PM
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You ever consider relocating your battery to the trunk to gain more room? I don't think it would be that hard with your abilities and plus that trunk has room. You can harvest a positive cable from the many BMW's that are out in the wrecking yards now or make a custom cable.
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You ever consider relocating your battery to the trunk to gain more room? I don't think it would be that hard with your abilities and plus that trunk has room. You can harvest a positive cable from the many BMW's that are out in the wrecking yards now or make a custom cable.
Or go the Mercedes route. I'm not sure when bat in the trunk started but the 90 - 01 R129 SL + similar year S class and 95 - 00 W202 C class had it. I'd expect the W140 to be trunk mount as well. The 96 - ? W210 E class had battery under rear seat.

The cable is run through the passenger compartment and there is a bulkhead connection at the drivers floor foot area.

It is OK to ground the trunk battery to the body as the above cars are however be sure to ground the engine to the body.
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Old 09-11-2019, 10:26 PM
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Are you using metal covers over the mounts that others call hear shields? Looking at the design, these are actually snubbers that reduce shear loads. Also, be sure the mounts are not stretched when installed, these mounts have very poor strength in tension and not so good in shear.

Have a look at McMaster - Carr for " anti vibration mounts " and you will find lots of info.

Yes, the metal covers are intact and in place......always have been. I'm just tired of the damn rubber mounts lasting about 3 months or so. And yes, the engine gets a valve adjustment every 15,000 miles and idles very smoothly.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:10 PM
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You ever consider relocating your battery to the trunk to gain more room? I don't think it would be that hard with your abilities and plus that trunk has room. You can harvest a positive cable from the many BMW's that are out in the wrecking yards now or make a custom cable.
I'm not really a big fan of batteries in the trunk, but I considered it. I'll probably try to make one of those aluminum Spectre air boxes work--when I have the money.
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Old 09-11-2019, 11:16 PM
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Ok, I guess if I use a cone filter I can mount it to the turbo with a rubber coupler tube. I can find the outside diameter of the cone filter flange easily enough, but off-hand, does anyone know the outside diameter of the turbocharger flange?
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Ok, I guess if I use a cone filter I can mount it to the turbo with a rubber coupler tube. I can find the outside diameter of the cone filter flange easily enough, but off-hand, does anyone know the outside diameter of the turbocharger flange?
It's roughly 2.5", but hopefully someone will come in with a more accurate measurement. I'd prefer to use a paper filter inside a housing or shield if possible.
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Old 09-12-2019, 01:32 PM
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Turbo inlet outer diameter is 59 mm or about 2 5/16 inches
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Many thanks for the info. Gonna proceed with this at the next oil change in about 500 miles or so.
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I noticed in all the pictures of people using cone filter set ups, they have the rubber tube from the valve cover going into an oil separator. I would prefer to just route it into the stock metal tube that comes from the oil pan and goes to the bottom of the stock air cleaner assembly.

Anyone see a problem with this?
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I noticed in all the pictures of people using cone filter set ups, they have the rubber tube from the valve cover going into an oil separator. I would prefer to just route it into the stock metal tube that comes from the oil pan and goes to the bottom of the stock air cleaner assembly.

Anyone see a problem with this?

Yes, a very obvious one
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:16 AM
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Please educate and enlighten me......is there an obvious problem (that I am oblivious to) with routing the PCV hose from the valve cover into the metal drain tube that usually attaches to the air cleaner. IF the air cleaner is removed, nothing will be attached to the drain tube so I would think it would be an ideal place to route the PCV tube.
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:03 AM
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If you are going to to put a direct line from the valve cover to the metal tube that leads to the oil pan, all it's going to do recirculate the crankcase gas and create a higher pressure within the crankcase that could blow out seals or make the engine run very poorly or keep from running or all of the above.

The reason for the oil separator is to separate the oil from the crankcase gases which drains oil back to the oil pan. The separated gas could be reburned or vented into the atmosphere. I have mine routed to the intake turbo hose to be reburned.

If you didn't have an oil separator and vented directly to the atmosphere, you'll have oil just spraying out.

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Ok, makes sense

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