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617 Turbo Rebuild
Anyone legit offering this as a service?
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617 swapped Toyota Pickup, 22-24 MPG, 50k miles on swap |
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I should specify, turbocharger rebuild. Just the turbo, not the whole engine.
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Performance Techniques in San Bernardino, CA are very familiar with the Mercedes 617 Garrett/KKK T3 and can create a performance version if wanted.
Performance Techniques - Turbo, Turbos, and Turbochargers - For all your turbo needs! Contact them to get a quote. . |
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Identify if you have a KKK or Garrett (Air Research Turbo). Most of them are Garrett (Air Research Turbo).
The Garrett (Air Research Turbo; a world wide company) same or similar model turbo is well known to rebuilders. Any Turbo rebuild shop should have no issues rebuilding it.
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Turbo Overhaul
It's not that difficult but A1 Turbo in So. Cal. (used to be Gardena, now in Long Beach I *think*) does them affordably .
I think I saved about 50 % on the parts kit from....'Go Pop Shop' (?) . I always buy a new shaft too . Don't forget to hand lap the pop off valve, I did last time, my bad, now it takes longer to reach 13" of boost .
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-Nate 1982 240D 408,XXX miles Ignorance is the mother of suspicion and fear is the father I did then what I knew how to do ~ now that I know better I do better Last edited by vwnate1; 09-15-2019 at 07:40 PM. |
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Tim's Turbos in Falls Church, VA is excellent. I know they're not real close for you but hey - you're probably going to ship it anyway.
Tim has done all of my turbos (I'm on #3 now as my performance goals increase) and all have been excellent. Dan |
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The OP Location: Oregon
If you take it to a rebuilder you don't automatically need a new Turbine shaft because they are going to evaluate the wear in the ring groove and on the bearing journals and in fact the bearing bore inside of the bearing housing. When people have replaced the bearings and seals themselves The generally don't have a way to measure stuff nor the specs. One of the items that frequently needs to be replaced is the Thrust plate. That is the large aluminum disc behind the Compressor Housing that attaches to the bearing housing. It has a sleeve that the seal rides in that can wear and a thrust face. I think it is better to deal with someone locally. If you have a warranty issue they are right their to deal with it more quickly and you don't have to pay shipping.
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Is there any reason you couldn't upgrade to a better turbo? To me, there is very little point spending a lot of money to rebuild a first generation turbo unless it was to be kept stock (which I suspect isn't a concern with your swap?)
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making.... 1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...) 1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone* 1977 250 parts car 1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone* 1975 FJ45>HJ45 1981 200>240D (to be sold...) 1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone* 1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist) 2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD |
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Thanks for the info, folks. I've reached out to a local turbo diesel place for a quote.
I'm definitely open to an upgraded turbo if it's cost effective. Is there any benefit to that with the stock IP? Goals and resources have shifted in the years since building this project. It still serves it's purpose, but now if it takes too much time or $$ to keep up I'll just be buying another truck.
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617 swapped Toyota Pickup, 22-24 MPG, 50k miles on swap |
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Probably not. Unless they build it in mind for faster spooling, then it would be better with a stock pump. But it might suffer in the higher RPM range.
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1983 123.133 California - GreaseCar Veg System |
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G - Pop Shop does mine ...
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Ive rebuilt 2 garret turbos from my 300d s over the years there is nothing to it. I buy the kit from mercedes source with directions. id recommend doing it yourself chances are if you bring it to a shop they have never done it either so you have nothing to loose.
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Yes well. I don't know of anything that would bolt right in its place, but something like a HE200 would give faster spool still with a good top end for stock fuel output AFAIK. Just a suggestion as turbo tech has come a long way since the mid-late 70s
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making.... 1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...) 1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone* 1977 250 parts car 1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone* 1975 FJ45>HJ45 1981 200>240D (to be sold...) 1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone* 1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist) 2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD |
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Ordered the M Source kit.
More power would be fun and useful, but any significant gains would require hugely more than just bolting on a different turbo. Well beyond the amount of time/effort/money I'm willing to devote to this project. Hopefully I can get the turbo rebuilt in a couple days after work.
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617 swapped Toyota Pickup, 22-24 MPG, 50k miles on swap Last edited by OM617YOTA; 09-16-2019 at 11:29 AM. |
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Thus far not happy with their service or lack of responsiveness.
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