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Old 10-31-2019, 10:57 AM
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Old OM 617 installed in a 60's Land rover

My Son has bought a 1964 Series 2A Land Rover fitted with a OM617 non turbo, could any one help me find the engines year from the engine plate?
I can't upload a photo but from the plate

Original Mercedes - Benz
Tauschaggregat
Teil-NR 617010070080
Aggregat Nr 423195

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Old 10-31-2019, 11:26 AM
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I can't but someone here can. They'll chime in soon I imagine.
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Old 10-31-2019, 11:27 AM
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Thanks with my School Boy German I think its an exchange unit? I was going to find a year asif its old enough it keeps the vehicles Historic taxation class.
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Old 10-31-2019, 01:56 PM
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Thanks with my School Boy German I think its an exchange unit? I was going to find a year asif its old enough it keeps the vehicles Historic taxation class.
If it is a us import the turbo engine became available around 1982. 81 in a coupe iirc.
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:05 PM
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Its in the UK
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:17 PM
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If it is a us import the turbo engine became available around 1982. 81 in a coupe iirc.
1978 in the W116 chassis.
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Old 10-31-2019, 02:26 PM
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The 617 showed up somewhere around 1976 and was last used in a production car in 1985. They may have stuck around longer for industrial or non-MB applications, but MB's went to the OM60x series engines in '86.
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Old 11-02-2019, 03:45 AM
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Any way of knowing the year of the engine?
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Old 11-02-2019, 09:15 AM
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It is a replacement motor based on the Tauschaggregat ID plate.

The conclusion of this exchange was to contact Mercedes in Germany.

mystery 617: "Original Mercedes-Benz Tauschaggregat" = Replacement motor?
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Old 11-02-2019, 09:45 AM
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My local Mercedes agents where most unhelpful No VIN no info which was disappointing.
Would any one have a contact in MB Germany?
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Old 11-02-2019, 04:10 PM
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The date is marked on the block behind the injection pump IIRC. One of my engines has "26 C 80" ie 26th March 1980.
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1977 250 parts car
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Old 11-02-2019, 04:30 PM
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The 617 showed up somewhere around 1976 and was last used in a production car in 1985. They may have stuck around longer for industrial or non-MB applications, but MB's went to the OM60x series engines in '86.

They were still sold in the G wagens however into the early 90s, so there's a chance (however small) its a post '85 engine.
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1978 300D, 373,000km 617.912, 711.113 5 speed, 7.5mm superpump, HX30W turbo...many, many years in the making....
1977 280> 300D - 500,000km+ (to be sold...)
1984 240TD>300TD 121,000 miles, *gone*
1977 250 parts car
1988 Toyota Corona 2.0D *gone*
1975 FJ45>HJ45
1981 200>240D (to be sold...)
1999 Hyundai Lantra 1.6 *gone*
1980s Lansing Bagnall FOER 5.2 Forklift (the Mk2 engine hoist)
2001 Holden Rodeo 4JB1T 2WD

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Old 11-03-2019, 12:07 PM
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Found these marks cast on the Cylinder head
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Old 11-03-2019, 08:47 PM
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Not recommending buying stuff from him. But you could go to the diesel giant site and find the part were it tells you how to look up the engine number.

If the Engine was built and put into a Car close to the middle of the Block on the fuel injection pump side right under where the Head and Block meet is a stamped number (hard to see).

If say your Car Engine threw a connecting rod and it was still under warranty and Mercedes replaced the Engine it will have information on a metal plate that the original Engine Blocks in cars did not have. That is as much as I can remember on it. Can't remember the location of the plate.

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