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Even my question not be about Mercedes Benz, I am curious to know why from different car manufacturers their diesel engines has different level of noise.
I have noticed that Ford F250 engines are louder than any other truck diesel. I know many other truck diesel with almost same size engine but none of them has the engine so loud as Ford F250. Can someone explain to me why those F250's are so noisy? Thanks.
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It is difficult to sell a vacuum carpet cleaner that does not make a lot of noise --- it doesn't sound like it is working. Noise equates to power for some people. The machine that makes the most noise sounds like it is the best.
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Dodges are not that loud tbh. The Cummins is rather quite.
The old 7.3 DI diesel is LOUD as hell.
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My old Kirby vacuum cleaner is like having a 707 jet running but it sucks like no other before or since, I'll keep it .
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Some cummins are more noisy than others. It has a lot to do with the muffs.
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Yes, the older ones are way loud. Most all the newer engines (from the Big Three) that are common rail and/or direct injected are much quieter.
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![]() All Diesel Fleet (well mostly) '04 S211 E320 wagon 1984 300TD 627,000 miles 1985 R107 300SLD TURBODIESEL For Sale: Diesel EGR Delete/Block-off Plate Kit 1985 CA emissions 617 owners- You Need This! Sanden style A/C Compressor Mounting Kit for your 616/ 617 For Sale + Install Inst. F.S. Accessory to run condenser fan & compressor clutch together Sanden Instalation Guide (post 11): http://www.peachparts.com/shopforum/diesel-discussion/367883-sanden-retrofit-installation-guide.html Last edited by ROLLGUY; 12-04-2019 at 01:22 PM. |
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Isn’t the noise of a diesel mostly determined by the injection pump ?
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A lot of the newer diesels are downright quiet. Pilot injection and a smooth pressure increase vs. just a big chunk of fuel all at once and a pressure spike makes a huge difference. My girlfriend's '13 TDI Beetle, while definitely not a gasser, is no louder than a gasser with the windows up.
My 617 is noisy noisy, almost Cummins like jarring. None of the other 617's I've heard sound like that. Timing is perfect and it runs well otherwise, so I don't worry. I do wonder, though. Edit: If anyone's in Oregon with a normal running 617 and would be willing to meet up and compare notes, I'll buy lunch or coffee or whatever.
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The PowerStroke diesels use a hydraulic HEUI injector setup that runs off oil pressure to fire the injector. Each injector has a spool valve in it and is electronically controlled. The early 7.3's had a single-shot injector. They were LOUD due to the diesel knock of each injection event. Later 7.3's had multi-shot injectors and were a bit quieter, but still pretty agricultural. The 6.0's improved the multi-shot setup and the 6.4's got it to the point that they were very quiet (but one of the worst engines Ford/Navistar ever made). The current 6.7's are extremely quiet in their stock form due to the multi-shot injection and common-rail setup.
Our old IDI diesels aren't exactly silent, but when well tuned they're remarkably quiet. My 3.4L "rod bender" is so quiet when idling that the loudest part in the engine bay is the "clack" of the delivery valves or the cooling fans if the A/C is on.
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International 7.3 is loud?
Im believing that the person has not heard a 5.9 litre cummins diesel even at idle.. - It has the most bassy firing knocks that are heard from afar.
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There is a difference in clatter between direct injection engines (OM617 for example) and common rail injection systems which are notably quieter.
In addition, a lot of the clatter in the OM617 originates in the vacuum pump. Both older diaphragm and later piston types are noisy. |
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OM617 is a prechamber engine. Direct injection is usually louder.
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Exactly what I said in post #2
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There are a lot of guys in this post talking about "noisy engines" but none of them, except "diseasel300",explaning the reason why the engines are loud.
Can other guys try to explain WHY that engine is noisy? Why mean for what reason the engine is louder than other diesel engines. Thanks
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