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Old 12-16-2019, 11:32 AM
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Cleaning Intake Manifold

Removed the intake manifold on my 617.952 and found all the intake passges clogged with a carbon goo with a similar consistency to chewing gum. Not being a diesel mechanic I have never encountered something like this before. Is there any sort of home remedy that can clean this out? I can think of things like a hot tank on a professional level, but I don't know what approach would work at home. I have never seen anything like it.

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Old 12-16-2019, 11:56 AM
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IMO, just give it to a machine shop to hot tank it.

Or you can let it sit in high purity bio diesel.
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:10 PM
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Yup, hot tanking it is the best/easiest/least messy way to deal with it and you don't have to do any scrubbing. A bath in a 50/50 mix of ammonia and hot water works well but is stinky and messy. Never tried the bio-diesel for clean-up. Might be worth a shot.
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Old 12-16-2019, 12:19 PM
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Scrape out what you can, it'll make the job a lot easier. Get a big tub and soak the manifold in a strong concentration of degreaser, it'll soften the crap so it comes out pretty easy with a bottle brush. Wear gloves, it makes a mess. If all else fails, Kerosene works well.

When you're done, disable the EGR system if you want to keep it clean.
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Scrape out what you can, it'll make the job a lot easier. Get a big tub and soak the manifold in a strong concentration of degreaser, it'll soften the crap so it comes out pretty easy with a bottle brush. Wear gloves, it makes a mess. If all else fails, Kerosene works well.

When you're done, disable the EGR system if you want to keep it clean.
cons/pros to disabling? how would you suggest? plug it up or run it under the car?(rust prevention? )
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Old 12-16-2019, 01:35 PM
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What I've done with this is to buy a big plastic tub from HD. The manifold has to fit entirely inside or you'll make a huge mess for which she'll never forgive you. Wear your oldest, expendable clothes. High cuff chemical resistant gloves, with a pair of thin nitrile gloves underneath. Use a bunch of small paint brushes and disposable cloth rags. The best brushes to use are the cheap ones they sell for applying solder flux, the steel handles do double duty as scrappers. Buy a bag:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Steel-Core-1-2-in-x-6-1-8-in-Horsehair-Bristle-Shop-Acid-Brushes-144-Piece-75841/308076784

Gasoline is the best solvent, but very dangerous. The advantage is that it's cheap and really cuts the crud. It evaporates quickly, which helps with cleanup. Mineral spirits also works. The good news is that you only have to do this every 150K miles or so.

You won't be able to dump the spent cleaning fluid anywhere, so the best bet is to stick it under the deck until it evaporates. Gloves, clothes, hat, rags, brushes, all bagged and trashed.
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What I've done with this is to buy a big plastic tub from HD. The manifold has to fit entirely inside or you'll make a huge mess for which she'll never forgive you. Wear your oldest, expendable clothes. High cuff chemical resistant gloves, with a pair of thin nitrile gloves underneath. Use a bunch of small paint brushes and disposable cloth rags. The best brushes to use are the cheap ones they sell for applying solder flux, the steel handles do double duty as scrappers. Buy a bag:

https://www.homedepot.com/p/Steel-Core-1-2-in-x-6-1-8-in-Horsehair-Bristle-Shop-Acid-Brushes-144-Piece-75841/308076784

Gasoline is the best solvent, but very dangerous. The advantage is that it's cheap and really cuts the crud. It evaporates quickly, which helps with cleanup. Mineral spirits also works. The good news is that you only have to do this every 150K miles or so.

You won't be able to dump the spent cleaning fluid anywhere, so the best bet is to stick it under the deck until it evaporates. Gloves, clothes, hat, rags, brushes, all bagged and trashed.
a bag of oil soaking dust/dirt can take care of that spent black fuel.
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Old 12-16-2019, 04:01 PM
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I went to an engine shop and had them hot tank and media blast it for me.

$35 was money well spent.
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I’ve used a plumbers torch and air compressor at the same time. Cleans it out like a mofo and fast
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I went to an engine shop and had them hot tank and media blast it for me.

$35 was money well spent.
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2x fire if you’re wanting to DIY

I used one of those trigger operated propane blow torches for weed killing.
Worked very well. Obviously you’re gonna wanna stay up wind
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Old 12-17-2019, 11:58 PM
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My machine shop will absolutely NOT put a part that grungy in their hot tank. I am sure many others will refuse as well. The chemicals are way expensive to buy and dispose of properly, and every other aluminum part put in after will turn black. If a majority of the black gunk was removed prior, I imagine a shop might take on the final cleaning job. I have heard that oven cleaner works well, though I have never tried it.
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Yes, I wonder where people find these machine shops that take on all the small and dirty jobs. Certainly not in SoCal. Minimum charge is $250 for anything, and getting dirty is extra.
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Old 12-18-2019, 12:42 AM
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I don't see why the engine degreaser cannot just be sprayed into the Manifold.

I don't know about places like Autozone but NAPA used to carry gallon cans of cleaning solvent.

For small Turbo Parts we used to use Carburetor Dip to clean off the Carbon but that was back in the 1970's when stuff was more toxic. Not sure how well the new dip works.
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Old 12-18-2019, 02:15 AM
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Yes, I wonder where people find these machine shops that take on all the small and dirty jobs. Certainly not in SoCal. Minimum charge is $250 for anything, and getting dirty is extra.
I had my filthy OM617 block and head hot tanked at a SoCal local machine shop, no problem.

Also, that "members mark" degreaser from Sam's Club works insanely well at getting filth removed. I ran it in my parts washer and while it was a messy job, it cleaned insanely well.

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