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I'm so glad you had your hands on my car to prove me wrong. Because, yeah, wiping that seal that's covered with oil anyway makes such a big difference. You do know that it's the clamping force of the cap against the seal, not the oiliness of the surface of the seal that does the sealing right? If you'd dealt with an engine that was pressurizing the crankcase even though the breather system was working perfectly, you might be willing to get down off your damn ivory tower. Oh well, can't teach an old dog new tricks.
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Another way to look at it would be :
Some old dogs have long professional careers and learn from them along with much factory, dealer and aftermarket training . You are correct in that you're unable to consider anything different, it's fine .
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Be sure to modify your signature line "I'm not here to learn, but I say I am!"
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That Pesky Truthy Thing Again
What you're doing is called 'transference' ~ it's where you do a thing but are embarrassed so you try to blame others for what you do .
Regulars here all know I crave learning new things and am always asking, unlike you . As I said, it's okay to be unsure .
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No, I'm conveying actual experience (including replacing the oil cap with no less than FOUR different versions [including 2 purchased directly from MB in Boerne]) and sharing that knowledge so that other people can learn from it. It's clear that your mind is beyond the ability to grasp new concepts.
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Since we're down this path so far anyway, how about you tell the Ladies and Gentlemen reading this forum post why my oil cap kept leaking then? Since you know all there is to know with your experience and factory training, surely you have the answer.
Important key facts: -Engine had high blow-by problems due to worn cylinders/rings and developed crankcase pressure at high RPM when hot, despite the crankcase breather being unobstructed and otherwise working properly. -Original plastic oil cap had hardened gasket replaced with new OE gasket. Cleaned of all oil and installed. Still leaked. -Original plastic oil cap replaced with Febi clone of original "short" style plastic cap. Still leaked. Replaced gasket and clean of all oil. Still leaked. Thinking that the valve cover was deformed or damaged, verified that oil fill port was free of burrs, nicks, or other deformities. Fill port was square and clean. -Purchased new oil cap from MB of Boerne. Was given the "short" style. Still leaked. -Thinking old stock, took new oil cap back to MB of Boerne and requested the new style "tall" style cap. Still leaked. Cleaned oil, replaced gasket etc, still leaked. Learned to live with it. High RPM would pressurize the crankcase enough to make a plume of smoke from the breather hole if the hose was detached and the engine revved hard. Obviously an extreme case of blow-by in a 603, but not unexpected for a high mileage diesel. I'll await your response. For what it's worth, the Febi cap is still on my 350SD and is leak-free.
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Quote:
https://m.autozone.com/external-engine/oil-filler-cap/duralast-oil-filler-cap-8079/4409_0_0?aqs=
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On ebay I found a stainless steel cap manufactured in Turkey. I bought it and fitted an OE blue "rubber" gasket. Works fine and looks great. No leaks at around-town speeds.
It is true that at higher pressures caused by sustained high speeds there is still a little seepage. Just wipe it up and stop making an issue of it. Your engine is 30+ years old and has hundreds of thousands of miles. Most other engines would be boat anchors by now. |
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Just a somewhat related note on this topic - my oil cap (appears to be original factory) leaks a moderate amount. So when I was ordering some other parts from our gracious hosts/overlords here, I added a seal for the oil cap. The part they sent was completely the wrong size (outside diameter was correct, but inside diameter was about 1/4" too big). So beware ordering a replacement from here.
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Old Style Oil Cap
THANK YOU ! .
That looks like a Chinese copy, as long as it works O.K. the price is O.K.. When first I discovered the existence of the blue silicone cap gaskets I ordered a few and told my buddy at the M-B Classic Center about them, he said "the E.P.C. doesn't list that for any older M-B's" . A while later it's the only one they ship . -Nate Quote:
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For the price I am more than happy.
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Okay, so I also have some seeping coming out of my oil cap on my 81 300D so I was planning on ordering a new one. I currently have the black plastic one and from what I'm reading in this thread, it seams as if the genuine metal MB cap might not be the way to go. Some of you seam to have had luck with the Duralast Oil Filler Cap (8079) which would be nice since it's cheap.
I guess my question is, which cap is the best to buy? |
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Oh, also there's some mention of a cap with a blue seal too?
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laughable but this REALLY works!! had the classic black tears weeping out of the cap, even with a new Mercedes gasket. this photo is after hundreds of miles with no wiping cleanup.
the rope is just simple, cheap, weak, cotton rope. pure white to start with, it soaks up oil like crazy as you see from the uniform color throughout the rope. |
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