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Old 04-09-2020, 05:24 PM
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Some insurance carriers I have to deal with only support IE for a browser. FireFox and Chrome don't work well enough to minimally get by on the agent portal. Win 10 is pretty solid but I keep an Ubuntu partition and 2 more Win 10 installs available in case my main OS goes down. I also make a new image every time I install a new program. Data is on a separate partition accessible by all OSs.

My main system went down last night. Ubuntu diagnostics said the drive is good so I restored the most recent image. Computer Geek friends say "if your data is so important, why is it stored in only 1 place ". PITA to do all of the preventive stuff but it sure helps when things go bad.

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Old 04-10-2020, 10:31 AM
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Based on your comments about PC's I'm assuming you left off with them somewhere around Windows 3.1/95?

Linux can indeed save money, if deployed in the right scenarios. Not realistic for everyday office use. On the server side of things it can be a great fit.

A good 80% of the macs I manage spend most of their time remote desktop connected into windows terminal servers anyways. Nothing like doing things the slightly less efficient and way more expensive way.

Linux is only free if your IT dept is doing ALL support. Otherwise if you expect distribution enterprise level support, you'll be paying to one of the several providers of commercial distributions for that right.

Untrue, I know of more than one fortune 500 company whose users are extremely happy and satisfied with the desktop experience of thin client/linux interface.

Interestingly, when the company made the switch over the weekend, come monday, over 95% of the end users didn't realize they were no longer on windows. Showed up monday morning, booted up and thought they were staring at a windows machine.
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Old 04-10-2020, 10:33 AM
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My first experience in a corporate environment using Windows 3.1 was around 1992. Most unstable platform to ever hit corporate computing. Our IT/programming department HATED IT for obvious reasons.
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:01 AM
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so now you rub shoulders with fortune 500 bosses , and have deep level knowledge of how an enterprise is setup on a "grand scale"

anyway - Apple does not sell/support anything that can replace a data bank aggregate from IBM/HP/Etc - running a Microsoft O/S in it. Of all enterprises I have visited - the Apple users are remembered with unique nicknames - and their level of loyalty and sometimes persona exactly matches your online personality on this forum.

Have you dealt with enterprise level infrastructure? does your vast experience exhaust out after "end user experience"?
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:09 AM
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so now you rub shoulders with fortune 500 bosses , and have deep level knowledge of how an enterprise is setup on a "grand scale"

anyway - Apple does not sell/support anything that can replace a data bank aggregate from IBM/HP/Etc - running a Microsoft O/S in it. Of all enterprises I have visited - the Apple users are remembered with unique nicknames - and their level of loyalty and sometimes persona exactly matches your online personality on this forum.

Have you dealt with enterprise level infrastructure? does your vast experience exhaust out after "end user experience"?

Seems you may be incorrect in your ASSumptions:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_X_(computing)
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:19 AM
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Untrue, I know of more than one fortune 500 company whose users are extremely happy and satisfied with the desktop experience of thin client/linux interface.

Interestingly, when the company made the switch over the weekend, come monday, over 95% of the end users didn't realize they were no longer on windows. Showed up monday morning, booted up and thought they were staring at a windows machine.
Not only do you NOT have experience with Fortune 500 companies (just like you don't have "intelligence" insiders as you claim), but anyone who is solely versed in Windows operating environments will IMMEDIATELY notice the difference when using Linux. I don't care what GUI you set up, the entire user experience is different.


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My first experience in a corporate environment using Windows 3.1 was around 1992. Most unstable platform to ever hit corporate computing. Our IT/programming department HATED IT for obvious reasons.
Most corporate environments were using Windows NT 3.5 by then, or more financial institutions were still running DOS. Windows didn't really make penetration into the corporate sector until Windows 95/NT4. Also, 3.1 is surprisingly stable on good hardware.


By far the biggest turd for corporate/enterprise users was Vista. I was still working in the IT department for a major university when that steaming pile rolled out. There's a reason M$ quickly killed it off and released 7.

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Seems you may be incorrect in your ASSumptions:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_X_(computing)
A supercomputer is NOT the same as a corporate server or cluster. Maybe your "expertise" could use with a bit of refining. Also, an example from 2003? Really?
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Old 04-10-2020, 11:25 AM
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I know of several major corporations with over 1000 computer users that have ditched Slindows in favor of Linux based thin clients. They are saving major $$$$$$$$ by not having to pay micro-crap licensing fees. They may have two or three "power users" which require slindows, the rest are doing very well without it.


Moving onto personal computing, I've been involved with PCs from the beginning and stopped enjoying the constant twiddling, fixing, rebooting, hard drives crashing, anti-virus software updates, etc. ad nauseum. Once I latched onto this apple mac, I kicked myself for not having made the switch years earlier.


Pretty much every apple mac user I have met tells me they are never going back to slindows/PC land. Blood pressures are consistently lower as well. Perhaps we could say the apple mac relieves stress?
The major push towards Linux and thin clients has nothing to do with Windows and everything to do with security and ease of maintenance. Most corporate/enterprise systems use remote data processing and Web-based applications. The requirement to run Windows and proprietary software is largely obsolete. Most servers are Linux/Unix based and have been for well over a decade. Even the "windows" files they run are operating in VM's for security and serviceability reasons.


Having been born into a household with not one, but TWO AppleII machines (one of which I still have), and getting our first Mac in 1989 and still using them to day, I can tell you're 100% full of crap. Apple has had more than their fair share of problems, hardware faults, OS bugs (some of which still plague their current OS), and synchronization faults with iOS devices. I have an iPhone (4 of them actually), I have Apple computers in my collection going back to 1982, and I can say with extreme prejudice that any Apple "fanboy" would NEVER EVER call it an "apple mac".
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how many man-hours, man-years or man-decades have been WASTED attempting to "fix" problems with all the various versions of Slindows?
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Old 04-10-2020, 12:04 PM
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how many man-hours, man-years or man-decades have been WASTED attempting to "fix" problems with all the various versions of Slindows?
Or Linux? Or MacOs? What a stupid post.
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You guys are way over my head. I just like Windows because it seems so much easier to learn/use than the Apple product.

In any event I received the display port connector today in a damaged package from USPS. The plastic envelope had been taped together and it had tire marks on it; looks like it was actually run over by the truck and the mailman taped it back together - the plastic envelope is actually squeezed in smaller than normal. When I opened it, the display port has the black plastic wire scuffed off in two places - each about an inch long and at each end of the wire. It shows the metal inside on both ends of the wire but the adaptors look undamaged.

I thought about returning it but plugged it in my desktop just for grins. Surprisingly Win10 recognized it immediately. I hit Windows-P and magically it showed me the options for using both screens. So I am in business.

Will probably just put some black tape to cover the bare wires. See pics.

PS - maybe I should put on my mask and go out and buy some lottery tickets today.
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Old 04-10-2020, 01:13 PM
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Windows has come a long way and frankly still has a long way to go, but so do the alternatives. Windows 10 annoys the crap out of me with it's forced updates, it always wants to scan or apply an update when I boot up or am in the middle of something. Just.....piss off, I can scan later! That's my only real gripe about it. Otherwise, it's more modern and "snappy" compared to 7 and earlier, so it's alright. I use MacOS, Linux Mint, Windows 7, and Windows 10 on a daily basis and they all have their pros and cons. If I didn't have specific software that required MacOS or Windows, I'd run Linux though, it seems to give the least amount of trouble. People ask if Mac or Windows is best all the time. My answer: Whatever you're comfortable with is best.
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In order to be able to use the pro grade hardware and software I use daily, one must be a member of MENSA. That automatically leaves out most forum members. Good luck.
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Old 04-10-2020, 04:17 PM
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In order to be able to use the pro grade hardware and software I use daily, one must be a member of MENSA. That automatically leaves out most forum members. Good luck.
Mensa eh.

Do share the specifications of your pro-grade hardware and software. I am not seeing any specifics in any of your posts.
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Seems you may be incorrect in your ASSumptions:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/System_X_(computing)
LOL..

so by rationale of speaking of cars - a 240D should be compared to a BMW M5?

both being medium sized sedans? - EXCELLENT!!

a supercomputer vs a server.

Please tell that the mensa you relate to requires us to read it in spanish
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Old 04-13-2020, 12:17 PM
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some servers are super computers. Also, if you have enough money, you can make ANYTHING happen. years back, I worked at a company that had managed to get a large cluster of Wang word processors to interface with an IBM System 38.

Since Wang O/S and IBM O/S are quite different from each other, I asked the office manager how they had managed to make it happen. She replied, "We paid a consulting firm a h*ll of a LOT OF MONEY to make it happen."

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