Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 04-17-2020, 07:15 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 3,948
Simple seat removal turns to task

85TD manual seats need attention and I was going to remove them. There are 2 adjustments both were locked up on both seats. One adjustment (handle in front) lets the seats slide forward. These weren't disengaging and the rails were crudded up. A shot of Croil fixed that problem.


The 2nd adjustment (Handle on side) lets the seat slide forward and up. It needs to move up to access the rear bolts that hold the seat to the floor. Nothing has gotten this slide moving. I'm sure that the toothed slide is disengaging on both sides.


Is there an easy way to disassemble or just remove the bottom cushion? Will that allow access to the slide rails so that I can get the remaining frame. I don't want to damage anything because I'm not sure what parts will be needed when I find a replacement seat.

__________________
85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. Probably up for sale in the fall 2020 still have it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Waiting on shop to do minor but more than I can do rust.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 04-17-2020, 09:23 PM
tyl604's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 3,470
A couple of years ago my driver's seat (1981 300sd) stopped working and would not move forward or backward. I was able with the aid of some swivel sockets and extensions to remove the seat. Would guess that you could do the same. The front bolts were easy but the two back bolts were a bear.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 04-17-2020, 10:55 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 3,948
I can get a 10mm crows foot on the back bolts but don't have enough room to turn the bolt. The front/aft rail moves freely but the up/down does not.

I remember a vid of a guy pulling the seat cover in the yard by sitting on the seat and loosening the cardboard rim from the groove on the bottom of the seat. I can't remember whether there was any better access to the bolts but he only wanted the cover.

Floorboard has significant rust. The lady I bought it from said they had trouble with the sunroof leaking and paid for multiple seal installs. The front seal is aftermarket and thicker than the OE seal I have in the box. They also used tape to try sealing the roof. Apparently the mechanic didn't know about cleaning the drains.

Anyway, seats, floor pan replace or patch, C-pillar paint where the drain exits, trans adjust/vacuum repair, fluids change, AC repair and I'll drive this thing for years.
__________________
85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. Probably up for sale in the fall 2020 still have it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Waiting on shop to do minor but more than I can do rust.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 04-17-2020, 11:01 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Alhambra California
Posts: 2,757
If I remember correctly the bottom seat cushion on W123 cars is held to the seat frame with Phillips head screws. Have you tried to use a combination wrench on the rear bolts? More time consuming, but it might work.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-17-2020, 11:37 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Middle TN
Posts: 3,948
I found some information.

Here's Kent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JH4X3IBAu-Q
Dieselguy has some too.

I'll try working on it more later.
__________________
85SD 240K & stopped counting painted, putting bac together. 84SD 180,000. Probably up for sale in the fall 2020 still have it. 85TD beginning to repair to DD status. Waiting on shop to do minor but more than I can do rust.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-18-2020, 09:01 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Monteagle, TN
Posts: 328
With seat out, flip it over and remove the spring and handle holding the ratcheting mechanism. Once you are not fighting the handle and toothed mechanism, I have always been able to get the holes lined up to remove all the phillips screws with a hammer hitting the slides either front or rear to line things up.
Once its apart, i have found few that won't free up with penetrant and a lot of movement. It sometimes takes some hammer work on the floor to get them moving initially.
__________________
1985 300 TD 448K
1984 300 TD 278K

1983 240D euro 240k
1994 f-250 idi turbo 330K
1986 f-350 IDI
1987 F-350 IDI

1985 JD 1050 4wd
1965 IH 3660
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-18-2020, 10:56 AM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Chicago
Posts: 198
I might suggest making it a two person job. The tracks on my 85TD were all gummed up with spilled pop, etc. My brother pushed from the back while I pulled from the front. I think he finally ended up using his feet to help move it. We were able to expose the bolts that way.

Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:32 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2018 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page