Parts Catalog Accessories Catalog How To Articles Tech Forums
Call Pelican Parts at 888-280-7799
Shopping Cart Cart | Project List | Order Status | Help



Go Back   PeachParts Mercedes-Benz Forum > Mercedes-Benz Tech Information and Support > Diesel Discussion

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #16  
Old 06-08-2020, 07:30 PM
Diesel911's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Beach,CA
Posts: 51,250
Quote:
Originally Posted by imgolden View Post
Hi all, bringing this thread back with an update:

Yesterday, I reamed 4/5 glow plug holes and replaced with brand new Bosch plugs.
However, #2 is very very stuck. The plug won't budge at all, and I am starting to really chew up the plug. I tried copious amounts of PB blaster, a torch, vice grips, etc.
My next strategy is to drive it (drives fine), and then spray PB into the area when the engine is hot, and do this a few times. I also purchased one of those damaged bolt extractors from Home Depot, but haven't tried it yet.

Any other ideas? I'm a little freaked out because I don't want to break anything off in the head.

FWIW, the other glow plug holes had a lot of carbon as I was inserting the reamer. However, once the reamer was threaded on, not very much carbon. I don't know if that's a clue.
Also, I don't have service history, so I don't know how old these plugs are.

Thanks!
There has been only a few members with 617 Engines that use the pencil glow plugs that have ever had stuck ones.

Your's sounds worse then theirs. Rusted Threads and or carbon got past the sealing area and filled the cavity with carbon and the carbon later hardens.

If it breaks off the extraction will be similar to extracting a broken bolt but the good news is the Glow plugs are already drilled down the center. One of the keys to successfully using an easy out is getting proper sized hole drilled down the center and using the proper sized easy out.

The thread size for the glow plugs is M12-1.25

Note some have gotten the plugs loose but found the tip of the Glow Plug was swollen.

In the attaché picture is a rounded bolt head extractor. It has to be small enough inside so that it pounds onto the glow plug and grips it when you turn it.

No one I have read of someone has done this but one member suggested heating the Glow plug part sticking out till it is red hot and letting it cool some before trying to turn it out. The thought is that the expansion and later contraction make it looser in the bore. Your head is Iron so it is possible.

Attached Thumbnails
Glow Plug Advice-rounded-bolt-nut-head-extractor-2020.jpg  
__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-08-2020, 07:31 PM
Diesel911's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Beach,CA
Posts: 51,250
Note use some never-size type compound on the threads when you re-install the glow plugs.

Note that the glow plugs seal on the angled shoulder on the body of the glow plug. What the means is if there if there is sufficient threads to tighten them enough even if the threads got dinged a little it can still seal.
__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-08-2020, 09:12 PM
Grom
 
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: San Diego, CA
Posts: 521
Got it!

I bought a bolt extractor set from Home Depot. I was skeptical that it would work, but it worked immediately.
Once I got the glow plug out, there was so much carbon I had to clean the reamer off 3 times.
Thanks everyone! This job is finally done.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-08-2020, 09:50 PM
Diesel911's Avatar
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Long Beach,CA
Posts: 51,250
Quote:
Originally Posted by imgolden View Post
Got it!

I bought a bolt extractor set from Home Depot. I was skeptical that it would work, but it worked immediately.
Once I got the glow plug out, there was so much carbon I had to clean the reamer off 3 times.
Thanks everyone! This job is finally done.
Wow, glad it worked. I never had those bolt extractors when I was a Mechanic. Not that I have them I used one time and it worked. Sometimes the one time you use a tool it pays for it self by getting the job done and over with and you can relax.

Story see attached picture: I bought the pictured wrench at some cheapie tool store for $2-$4 and never used it got shuffled from place to place in my several tool boxes.
A water pipe down and inside of a wall rusted through and was leaking badly. I had to cut the hole through a calamite as the shower was on the other side and I did not want to tear up the shower side.

So there was tight and limited space and none of the pipe wrenches including a Chain Type pipe wrench nor Vicegrips worked.

The pictured wrench was the only pipe wrench I had not tried and the only one that there was enough space for it to grip onto the pipe and turn it. That is the only thing I have ever used that wrench for but without it working I could not have turned the Water back on in my House. I would have to have torn up more of the wall to get the other wrenches onto the pipe.
Attached Thumbnails
Glow Plug Advice-pipe-wrench-automat-wrenc-2020.jpg  
__________________
84 300D, 82 Volvo 244Gl Diesel
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 06-08-2020, 10:46 PM
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 2,776
If the stuck plug works leave it and soak it for a loooong time...for a month everyday when the engine is warm. Let it cool and wick in. PB is good but I've had better results IMO with KROIL.

If you can get an impact on it you may increase the chances on getting it out if it's coming out; however, the impact may break it off. Give it some light impact tightening too.

__________________
"Rudeness is a weak man's imitation of strength" - Eric Hoffer
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Search Engine Optimization by vBSEO 3.6.0
Copyright 2024 Pelican Parts, LLC - Posts may be archived for display on the Peach Parts or Pelican Parts Website -    DMCA Registered Agent Contact Page