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Old 12-31-2020, 10:11 AM
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I mentioned before I used a URO seal on my 300d front glass two years ago. I’m satisfied with the result.

It was not as beefy as an OE. But it does fit and seal. My biggest complaint is because of the lacking thickness it fits a little pulled back on the body and exposes the masking line on the old respray job. Obviously the older one was wider on the margin.



However, given this was the one available at peach and it was inexpensive I’m okay with it.

Sad to hear above the 126 one didn’t fit well. I fixed my 126 with an OE rear glass seal about six years ago. It was very thick and heavy. It’s still pliable and fresh. It did cost significantly more than the URO if I recall correctly.

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Old 01-05-2021, 07:39 AM
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I just ordered uro seals to try them out. One front, one rear. I will report back.
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Old 05-06-2021, 08:52 PM
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It was not as beefy as an OE. But it does fit and seal. My biggest complaint is because of the lacking thickness it fits a little pulled back on the body and exposes the masking line on the old respray job. Obviously the older one was wider on the margin.

Sad to hear above the 126 one didn’t fit well. I fixed my 126 with an OE rear glass seal about six years ago. It was very thick and heavy. It’s still pliable and fresh. It did cost significantly more than the URO if I recall correctly.
What is it with URO that they won't just simply make an exact copy of the OE original, pass the cost of the additional thickness i.e. more rubber on to the customer? Is this really so hard to achieve? Many of the members here already chimed in that they would be happy to pay more to get OE fit and quality!
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Old 05-08-2021, 07:53 PM
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I bought a rear glass seal for my 85 w126 several years ago.

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I recently had the rear windshield installed on my 85SD that is just out of paint. The installer has done work for the panter for the last 20 years and worked for dealerships when these cars were new.

He cleaned the glass, installed the, inserted the chrome, then lubed the seal with WD40 from a can applied with a swab that comes with the can then wrapped a 1/4" cord around the seal.

He set the glass in place and used a suction cup to control it. He pulled the rope which forced the seal over the opening lip. He'd periodically slap the glass to cause it to drop into place. 30 minutes and $60 he was done.

Hes so inexpensive I'll never try installing my own. Brakes I do frequently so need to know how. Glass not so much.
I removed the anodized coating from the alum trim so I had to delay the putting the glass back until I finished the shine job on the aluminum. My son helped. It's a bit scary because I've heard that glass is pretty easy to break but it didn't take long to install. I felt quite accomplished to have done such a good job.

Now I have to remove the glass to paint. Real smart, right?
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Old 05-09-2021, 09:10 AM
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What is it with URO that they won't just simply make an exact copy of the OE original, pass the cost of the additional thickness i.e. more rubber on to the customer? Is this really so hard to achieve? Many of the members here already chimed in that they would be happy to pay more to get OE fit and quality!
Huh…must be cost. The price differential was extreme. MB when available was 2x more money. You do that in manufacturing and you’re going to get a completely different outcome.

The thought of raising prices to raise the amount of rubber is an interesting one. It really is up to the marketing team. Do they think they can get the money or are they going to end up with a bunch of parts they cannot move? URO has a long history of making very low cost replacement parts…some of which I’ve personally been disappointed in.

However, as a guy trying to fix these old cars, URO supporting our market is a godsend. Even with their rock bottom pricing agenda and quality tradeoff. I used the window seal on the front. No it wasn’t as thick as OE. But it seals. And it is still soft two years later.

Being $50 cheaper than the past MB seals? Well I’m a pretty cheap bastard. I’ll take the cheap while being quietly accepting that it isn’t as thick. I’m too cheap to repaint my car and now I have a masking line showing where the lip of the URO seal is pulled back 1mm.

I used to have a volvo p1800 before I had the Benzes. Availability of rubber parts from URO is greatly appreciated compared to what the p1800 crowd was doing for those parts.

After hearing good things about the 126 door seal on a recent post I think I’m going to try one. What else am I gonna do? Sit around and get mad? Sell my car? Rub black silicone on the cracks?

It’s really clear MB has had a change of heart about maintaining stock of 40 yo parts. I am going to embrace reality and fit my car with URO so I can keep driving it.
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Old 05-09-2021, 11:03 AM
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You needn't remove the windshield and back light for re painting .

Get a nylon or plastic scraper and some 1/4" rope, use the scraper to lift the edge of the old grommet and carefully tuck the 1/4" rope in the gap ~ this will hold the lip of the grommet up so you can mask it and the new paint will go under neath the edge or the grommet be it old or new .

I typically use a single edge razor blade tp skim off any old paint ridge from prior re paint works and I use a stiff bristle brush and narrow upholstery nozzle in the vacuum cleaner to loosen and remove any dust or crud I discover under the lip .

A few years back I replaced the windshield in my '82 240D and used a factory new grommet from the M-B Classic Center, it now has a 1'4" wide gap in the lower right corner, apparently B-M use extruded rubber strips and molded corners on the replacement seals and it shrank and separated at the seam, I dislike looking at it but no leaks so far....


As fas as the why so cheaply done questions, that's because of the bean counters, they're necessary to insure the venture capital put up to create out old parts doesn't vanish .

So far I'm still quite happy with my new Uro W123 HVAC blower ~ I never turn it off .
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Old 05-10-2021, 07:21 PM
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What is it with URO that they won't just simply make an exact copy of the OE original, pass the cost of the additional thickness i.e. more rubber on to the customer? Is this really so hard to achieve? Many of the members here already chimed in that they would be happy to pay more to get OE fit and quality!
Hi guys, in the past it was difficult to accurately replicate seal profiles. Often the seals were NLA, and decades-old used seals are no longer their original shape. Or if new OEM seals are available, sometimes they're not the quite the same shape as OE, so you get some design creep in the shape of a profile (an imperfect copy of an imperfect copy).

However, a few years ago we invested in a FaroArm scanning system, which greatly enhanced our reproduction accuracy. Then about a year ago we added a Creaform HandySCAN BLACK | Elite system to our metrology lab, which is really stepping up our development program.

If you're curious about Creaform technology, check out these videos:
HandySCAN BLACK: The Ultimate Reference in Portable Metrology
HandySCAN Black Elite Landing Gear Scan Demo

This technology will really help us create accurate seal profiles going forward. It's still not easy to guess the original shape of a seal that hasn't been available new for a long time, but these tools and software will help our engineers capture complex 3D shapes digitally, and enable them to make tweaks to the shapes that will hopefully be more accurate representations of the original items (when they were new).

Needless to say, we're pretty excited about it.

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