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merc lover 09-07-2020 06:50 PM

1984 300DT: New Bosh Oil Filter includes two washers, what to do?
 
Changing the oil, noticed the new Bosch Oil Filter includes two crush washers, one steel, one copper. Should I use both or just the copper?

Also, what are the torque values for the 13mm oil pan drain plug and the two 13mm bolts for the oil filter canister?

Diesel911 09-07-2020 08:16 PM

If the copper one fits only use that. If neither fit don't use either.

I don't know the torque for the drain nor the 2 oil filter housing nuts.

Mark123 09-08-2020 03:43 PM

I use the copper washer against the pan and the steel as a friction washer on top of it. Torque the pan drain to 40 nm and the filter nuts to 25 nm per the FSM Maintenance Manual 1981 to 1993

H-townbenzoboy 09-09-2020 08:10 PM

Use the copper one and dispose of the other one.

merc lover 06-09-2022 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark123 (Post 4091162)
I use the copper washer against the pan and the steel as a friction washer on top of it. Torque the pan drain to 40 nm and the filter nuts to 25 nm per the FSM Maintenance Manual 1981 to 1993

I sat my torque wrench to 30 foot pounds (40 nm converts to about 30 foot pounds). I then placed the torque wrench on the 13mm oil pan bolt and began to turn the bolt. It seemed the torque wrench did not want to "click" signifying torque had been reached. I finally stopped because I was worried about stripping out the oil pan bolt.......

Phillytwotank 06-09-2022 02:46 PM

Torque specs for drain plug and filter housing = GutuenTight

merc lover 06-09-2022 04:49 PM

that's what I went with; I sure didn't want to strip out the threads in the oil pan.......

2ma2 06-11-2022 09:43 AM

Haven’t done the Benz yet but on my BMW E9 the filter kit comes with 2 washers also. I have been using one on the filter bolt the other on the drain plug.
Don’t know if that’s where it’s supposed to go but it seems to work.

tangofox007 06-11-2022 05:48 PM

The fact that an oil filter comes with multiple seals doesn't mean that you need to use all of them. In many cases, a particular filter fits a number of different applications with different seal requirements.

unkl300d 06-11-2022 06:14 PM

I use two fingers on the torque wrench handle as held.
Whatever your two finger leverage on the handle amounts to at fingers' stop,is good.
That is a general mechanic's hack.

No need to over tighten the drain plug washer.

I used to place the grey colored washer over the exterior face of the copper one until it leaked once (after many successful applications).
So I just use the copper crush washer,making sure to center it while tightening,then do the final tight is right.

BillGrissom 06-20-2022 02:16 PM

Usually one copper washer fits the drain plug and the others go into my copper washer bin. Sometimes they give you O-rings for the filter shaft, but I have better Viton ones there. Always change the thick cover O-ring since the old one likely went flat. I save the old ones in a bag since often end up using them on another car for something non-sealing like a cushion or spacer. Insure you don't trap any wires or hoses under the cover (feel for them) or you will get a massive oil leak (how would I know?). Easy to do since they crowded a bunch of stuff around the top of the filter housing in my 1984 and 1985.


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