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Old 02-23-2021, 08:30 PM
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Looks pretty grody. Besides, the only reason the OP is doing anything is because he was forced to.


Broken fan belts are another perfect example of PPM. Most of the time they don't break. Leave them on too long and they will possibly at a very inconvenient time like when you're going down the interstate and have just passed an exit.



That funny smell is antifreeze that's leaked from between the head and block or from the crack in the head depending on how hot the engine got while the driver went a little longer on a $20 worn out part.
See post #15.

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Old 02-23-2021, 08:39 PM
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Looks pretty grody. Besides, the only reason the OP is doing anything is because he was forced to.


Broken fan belts are another perfect example of PPM. Most of the time they don't break. Leave them on too long and they will possibly at a very inconvenient time like when you're going down the interstate and have just passed an exit.



That funny smell is antifreeze that's leaked from between the head and block or from the crack in the head depending on how hot the engine got while the driver went a little longer on a $20 worn out part.
I have smelled coolant leaks before and also Oil on a hot exhaust manifold. It did not smell like a coolant leak but then I was on the freeway.

The mistake made was not looking at the tem gauge.

New Water Pump is already on. Waiting for the new thermostat, belts, radiator hoses and new coolant recover tank because a few years ago I patched mine.
I already have new fire wall heater hoses which I bough like in 2010.

Also i am changing the oil which despite the overheating smelled normal.

I am going to put an coolant temp alarm on. I have some electric fan switch sensors and the buzzer is already there from my old low oil pressure alarm.
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Old 02-23-2021, 08:46 PM
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It doesn't look that bad.
Yes. See post #15 I had block sealant that has copper particles in it and I later added some reddish colored radiator sealant tablets. That is why there is a reddish coating on the inside of the coolant system.

I did that 5.5 years ago when the other water pump leaked incase there was a head gasket issue caused by that overheating.

Maybe I will use block sealant again.

The next time I take a picture of a part I am going to clean it off first and avoid the controversy.
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Old 02-23-2021, 10:26 PM
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...would a man select a girlfriend who is old?

Perhaps "former" would have been a more accurate description.



Old is relative. My 81 yr old bike riding friend has a 65 year old wife. Seems to be doing pretty well - drives a Mercedes, recently down sized to a 5000 sq ft house with less maintenance and has a young(er) wife.
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Old 02-23-2021, 11:13 PM
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You are going by the color. The color is caused by the radiator sealant tablets I put in and the Bar-S Block sealer I used years a go on it (it has copper particles in it). That is what is coating stuff.

I did back flush the Black, radiator and heater core all done separately.

When it is assembled I will fill it with water run it sum so it is nice and hot and drain and then renew the coolant.

The bigger worry is this is the 2nd time it has been over heated (previously around 5.5 years ago). I am worried about warped head and an head gasket issue. But, one problem at a time.

Apparent the Heater Hoses on the fire wall need renewing as they did not feel go. I bought a set of those many years ago so I guess I am finally going to use them.

I am also getting a new Coolant Recovery tank since I has patched the original one several years ago.
Well, to be fair, I'm going by the color, the visible sediment around the gasket, the necessary part swapping, the coolant leak fix in the form of that copper solution and the fact that you've overheated twice now.

You've got more time on the experience clock than I do by an order of magnitude. And no deduction is ever fool proof. Though based on what I've learned and experienced since owning my 240, when it comes to the cooling system in these cars, there is either a maintained and optimal system or one that is waiting to fail. Yours sounds like its on borrowed time.

Curious to hear how it goes.
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:10 AM
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Well, to be fair, I'm going by the color, the visible sediment around the gasket, the necessary part swapping, the coolant leak fix in the form of that copper solution and the fact that you've overheated twice now.

You've got more time on the experience clock than I do by an order of magnitude. And no deduction is ever fool proof. Though based on what I've learned and experienced since owning my 240, when it comes to the cooling system in these cars, there is either a maintained and optimal system or one that is waiting to fail. Yours sounds like its on borrowed time.

Curious to hear how it goes.
I don't know if anything was seriously damaged and won't till I drive it again.

The thing is with the Mercedes I have never overheated due to a radiator being plugged. The fist time it overheated it was due to a leaking water pump and while My Wife saw the temp gauge her response was to pull over and let it cool off. When it cooled of she continued driving till it over heated again and did that one more time to get her home.
She had no clue about adding more water or coolant.

I put the 2 sealants in to deal with any head gasket issue if there was on.

Then with the recent over heat I see a Water Pump leak again and later I find the broken Thermostat.
I can't connect either of those to a light reddish particulate coating.

I grew up with Cars that only used Water in the Cooling System so at least at one time I was more familiar with rust in a coolant system then now. I don't ever recall rust in the system eating Water Pumps.

I do recall the rust plugging radiators and over heating mostly being caused by that. If the Engine over heating badly after several weeks later I have seen Water Pump Bearings or seals go bad and I think it was from the over heating.
Only occasionally did Water Pumps leak and I have always owned used cars that who knows how long the Water Pump was on there.

A different issue is that except at the Naval Shipyard most of my Mechanical experience is with Vehicles that people made money off of. The emphasis was on getting the Vehicle running and back making money for the owner.

There was some times when the Customer actually stood next to me while worked just waiting to jump back in his truck and get back on the road.

The short story is the work I did was no frills and had to be reliable but that was it.

The Naval Shipyard was entirely different. There the most important thing was you had to follow procedure. And you got a lot of time to do that and you could waste a lot of time doing it. You could take all of the breaks you wanted but you had to either be drinking coffee or outside smoking a cigarette.
You also got paid if you want to the Credit Union at the Base.

Depending on what you were doing a quality control guys checked on what you did and your measurements.

Since we were rebuilding Engines and components we did little troubleshooting although we did take apart the Engines on the ship and bring the parts in to work on them.

Whole different environment.

I never was a Car Mechanic. Although I did maintain the Gassers of my employers.
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Old 02-24-2021, 12:37 AM
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Well, to be fair, I'm going by the color, the visible sediment around the gasket, the necessary part swapping, the coolant leak fix in the form of that copper solution and the fact that you've overheated twice now.

You've got more time on the experience clock than I do by an order of magnitude. And no deduction is ever fool proof. Though based on what I've learned and experienced since owning my 240, when it comes to the cooling system in these cars, there is either a maintained and optimal system or one that is waiting to fail. Yours sounds like its on borrowed time.

Curious to hear how it goes.
This is off subject sort of. When I stared up with this forum and I also was signed up with several other Mercedes forums I found that there is some people that have chronic high temp (not overheating but close) issues and chronic low charging system issues that seem not to be solvable despite their numerous attempts to fix the issues.

It is almost like their particular cars are lemons. My car has never exhibited any high temp issues (except with the coolant leaks mentioned) even when I have driven out to the desert and my charging rate had been low but adequate.
I was able over the years to gradually to raise my charging voltage.

In particular I always though it was odd that that they never seemed to be able to deal with the high temp issue.
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I have smelled coolant leaks before and also Oil on a hot exhaust manifold. It did not smell like a coolant leak but then I was on the freeway.

The mistake made was not looking at the tem gauge.

New Water Pump is already on. Waiting for the new thermostat, belts, radiator hoses and new coolant recover tank because a few years ago I patched mine.
I already have new fire wall heater hoses which I bough like in 2010.

Also i am changing the oil which despite the overheating smelled normal.

I am going to put an coolant temp alarm on. I have some electric fan switch sensors and the buzzer is already there from my old low oil pressure alarm.
I wouldn't bother with the alarm.

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