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Old 04-14-2021, 11:04 PM
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I bashed the oil pan pretty hard to - day
Prolly time for front shocks and bump stops...

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Old 04-14-2021, 11:12 PM
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I rebuilt the entire front end a few years ago using all factory parts and added Bilstein HD gas shocks...

W123's have always had low oil pans that scraped and began leaking, that's why so many European ones came with the two piece bash plates .

I was only going 45
I always try to drive so as no never bottom out the suspension....
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Old 04-14-2021, 11:30 PM
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I rebuilt the entire front end a few years ago using all factory parts and added Bilstein HD gas shocks...

W123's have always had low oil pans that scraped and began leaking, that's why so many European ones came with the two piece bash plates .

I was only going 45
I always try to drive so as no never bottom out the suspension....
Did you replace the bump stops on the shocks? Bilsteins do not come with them, you have to order them separately. With the bump stops installed, you cannot whack the oil pan on the pavement. Tired shocks + no bump stops = scrapey scrapey
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Interesting topic. I had a w123 240D manual trans. in the early 90's and wanted to get another one. I was however, concerned about being able to keep up with modern traffic.

It was completely fine back then when the speed limit was 55 and people would seldom go over 65 on the highway because police actually patrolled traffic. Today when I see someone pulled over on the interstate I think "geez, I wonder how fast that guy was going to actually get pulled over" seeing as the speed limit is now 70 and seldom is the traffic travelling at less than 10 over. I just remember the 240D being pretty "busy" at 65 and up.

Turned out to be a moot point as a nice '85 300SD popped up on my local craigslist, it was local, reasonably priced and too nice to pass up.

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Interesting topic. I had a w123 240D manual trans. in the early 90's and wanted to get another one. I was however, concerned about being able to keep up with modern traffic.

It was completely fine back then when the speed limit was 55 and people would seldom go over 65 on the highway because police actually patrolled traffic. Today when I see someone pulled over on the interstate I think "geez, I wonder how fast that guy was going to actually get pulled over" seeing as the speed limit is now 70 and seldom is the traffic travelling at less than 10 over. I just remember the 240D being pretty "busy" at 65 and up.

Turned out to be a moot point as a nice '85 300SD popped up on my local craigslist, it was local, reasonably priced and too nice to pass up.
Sort of this. Also, I lose MPG going over 55 MPH. I remember 32 MPG at 55 mph. Dropped to 28 MPG at 65 mph. I'm on flat land. Only issue is passing. Roughly twice the distance or more. Or someone going exceedingly slooow.
Another issue is the condition of the 240D. When I bought mine, I could not go above 55 mph. And that took about a mile or more to get to. The throttle linkage needed attention. New tires and shocks helped the ride. Also, upper and lower ball joints. Still, some parts to replace.
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Old 04-16-2021, 08:35 AM
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Post Shock Absorber Bump Stops

No, I didn't any chance of an image ? .

I made it home and am awaiting the new oil filter canister to cylinder block gasket, it never completely failed but there's a pretty good spray of oil coming up between the left rear bumper end and body....
I know this will be a nasty oil job, unlike most I usually clean the mess before the job as I don't like oil dripping into my hair & face .

Then I'll have to wash the engine under body yet again .

Sigh .

I took some pictures, can't post 'em .
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Old 04-16-2021, 08:38 AM
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Thumbs up 240D On Hills

As it turns out I drove quite a few 6, 7 and 8 % grades on this trip and the car handled them well ~ not quickly but at no point did it struggle top go up the steep grades ~ it shifted down into the appropriate gear and motored on happily, never got hot and I was using the AC almost continually .

If you cannot drive 65, a 240D is not the car for you .
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Old 04-16-2021, 09:37 AM
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I took some pictures, can't post 'em .
You can. Resize to 1024x768 and save in JPG format. The forum will accept whatever you want all day long. You just can't upload from a phone or upload full-resolution pictures. The forum software is from 1885 and doesn't understand any media formats or hardware platforms from this century.
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:17 AM
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THANK YOU ! .

I looked at the DIY shock installation and am not clear where they go....

I'm game but the threaded rod isn't long enough for these .

What am I missing here ? .

TIA,

I cannot seem to grasp how to resize my images, I used to be able to attach them but no longer, not even a simple diagram .
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:25 AM
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THANK YOU ! .

I looked at the DIY shock installation and am not clear where they go....

I'm game but the threaded rod isn't long enough for these .

What am I missing here ? .
They go on the slick part of the rod so that the shock body can bump into them to limit total travel.
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Old 04-16-2021, 10:42 AM
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Thank you ~ I'll go buy and install some .
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Old 04-17-2021, 05:52 PM
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Thumbs up W123 Shock Snubbers

O.K., I have those on order, what about the dust covers ? .

Do I need them with the Bilstein shocks ? .

I looked but didn't find them in the catalog .

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Old 04-17-2021, 09:11 PM
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Old 04-18-2021, 11:00 AM
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That's that I thought but I can't find them in any catalog, maybe I'll get lucky and find some in the junkyard .

Right now the car needs front wheel bearing service and maybe new pads, bleed the brakes again as the fluid has turned black (I try to flush & bleed every two years) , replace the gasket between the oil filter and block, clean an incredible mess up and maybe some other things....

Always so much to do and I can't work fast like I used to .

Life is good, very good .

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